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	<title>Comments on: Dota 6.60 - Tauren Chieftain</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: LolZerO</title>
		<link>http://www.dotastrategy.com/blog/660-tauren-chieftain/comment-page-1/#comment-61337</link>
		<dc:creator>LolZerO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 18:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a huge fan of TC i mean seriously. lvl 7 and u render almost any hero incapasatated for 4 seconds and u deal a straight up 60-75% of max hp depleted by using spells alone. if well itemd up u can get another ghost and stun up shutting up your foe np. best items for this hero is a refresher, phase boots, a force staff and if you want to c fun get a purge stick. Big LOLZ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a huge fan of TC i mean seriously. lvl 7 and u render almost any hero incapasatated for 4 seconds and u deal a straight up 60-75% of max hp depleted by using spells alone. if well itemd up u can get another ghost and stun up shutting up your foe np. best items for this hero is a refresher, phase boots, a force staff and if you want to c fun get a purge stick. Big LOLZ</p>
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		<title>By: ta3dominant</title>
		<link>http://www.dotastrategy.com/blog/660-tauren-chieftain/comment-page-1/#comment-61222</link>
		<dc:creator>ta3dominant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 11:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TC's ulti is so hard to target because it releases a crack first before the damage in the slow comes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TC&#8217;s ulti is so hard to target because it releases a crack first before the damage in the slow comes</p>
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		<title>By: LLoyd</title>
		<link>http://www.dotastrategy.com/blog/660-tauren-chieftain/comment-page-1/#comment-59805</link>
		<dc:creator>LLoyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 07:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dont thnk so. TC is not so imba. because only pros can use hm effectively. and if your not a pro, you need a lane partner with holds like rylai.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont thnk so. TC is not so imba. because only pros can use hm effectively. and if your not a pro, you need a lane partner with holds like rylai.</p>
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		<title>By: sekigah</title>
		<link>http://www.dotastrategy.com/blog/660-tauren-chieftain/comment-page-1/#comment-59681</link>
		<dc:creator>sekigah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 05:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tauren is impossibly imba. First off, his ulti takes 35% of base HP, AOE, Slow and a huge range.  Second his Ghost form. You can essentially throw it for a HUGE distance stun. Not to mention if you can drop his ghost into a huge group of creeps and enemy heroes you will essentially have a Divine Rapier.  

Considering in group fights all you need to do is Ulti &gt;Toss your shadow in &gt; Start Stunning &gt; run in and beat them down, its pretty much completely imba.  Before you even get a chance to run in you probably already got them down a HUGE amount and adding to the fact that you probably now have +185 to +300 damage you will probably 2 shot AGI's and INTs and have STR running back to heal.

TC needs a nerf. Like decrease the range on his ulti or have it do a solid number instead of % and lower the multiplier of the damage you gain from his shadow. If you are able to throw a stun at that range for up to 5 seconds, it should take at least 5 seconds to channel.  Thats like giving Alch a 1 second channel to drop a 5 second stun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tauren is impossibly imba. First off, his ulti takes 35% of base HP, AOE, Slow and a huge range.  Second his Ghost form. You can essentially throw it for a HUGE distance stun. Not to mention if you can drop his ghost into a huge group of creeps and enemy heroes you will essentially have a Divine Rapier.  </p>
<p>Considering in group fights all you need to do is Ulti &gt;Toss your shadow in &gt; Start Stunning &gt; run in and beat them down, its pretty much completely imba.  Before you even get a chance to run in you probably already got them down a HUGE amount and adding to the fact that you probably now have +185 to +300 damage you will probably 2 shot AGI&#8217;s and INTs and have STR running back to heal.</p>
<p>TC needs a nerf. Like decrease the range on his ulti or have it do a solid number instead of % and lower the multiplier of the damage you gain from his shadow. If you are able to throw a stun at that range for up to 5 seconds, it should take at least 5 seconds to channel.  Thats like giving Alch a 1 second channel to drop a 5 second stun.</p>
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		<title>By: LLOYD</title>
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		<dc:creator>LLOYD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and btw, the ancestral spirit have the Natural Order Buff. so there is no need for you to jump in the middle of the battle. you can just have phase boots and attack the hero you're angry at Lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and btw, the ancestral spirit have the Natural Order Buff. so there is no need for you to jump in the middle of the battle. you can just have phase boots and attack the hero you&#8217;re angry at Lol.</p>
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		<title>By: LLOYD</title>
		<link>http://www.dotastrategy.com/blog/660-tauren-chieftain/comment-page-1/#comment-59630</link>
		<dc:creator>LLOYD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think Guinsoo and Refresher is a good choice for Tauren. I've tried it and it got me Ultra Kill in one combo with Rooftrellen and Centaur in the 4 that died. Its really cool if you try it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think Guinsoo and Refresher is a good choice for Tauren. I&#8217;ve tried it and it got me Ultra Kill in one combo with Rooftrellen and Centaur in the 4 that died. Its really cool if you try it.</p>
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		<title>By: sopas111</title>
		<link>http://www.dotastrategy.com/blog/660-tauren-chieftain/comment-page-1/#comment-59073</link>
		<dc:creator>sopas111</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some one! make a guide xD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some one! make a guide xD</p>
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		<title>By: Lolopo</title>
		<link>http://www.dotastrategy.com/blog/660-tauren-chieftain/comment-page-1/#comment-58991</link>
		<dc:creator>Lolopo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He is soooo imba ult deals lota dmg..... 35percent of BASE HP AOE DMG WITH %) PERCENT SLOW COMPARED TO HUSKAR HE IS SOOOOO IMBA!!!! huskar deals 40 percent dmg to current hp and dmgs self too its not aoe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is soooo imba ult deals lota dmg&#8230;.. 35percent of BASE HP AOE DMG WITH %) PERCENT SLOW COMPARED TO HUSKAR HE IS SOOOOO IMBA!!!! huskar deals 40 percent dmg to current hp and dmgs self too its not aoe.</p>
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		<title>By: Vatiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vatiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Natrual Order also nullifies the effect of physical damage reduction? isn't that kind of over powerd? you got heroes like Nether swapper with -5 arm in some sort of a howl and you give the tauren freaking Magical and Armor Nullifier? wtf man? IMBA

- Upcomming version should nerf it to ONLY Magical Nullifier aura!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Natrual Order also nullifies the effect of physical damage reduction? isn&#8217;t that kind of over powerd? you got heroes like Nether swapper with -5 arm in some sort of a howl and you give the tauren freaking Magical and Armor Nullifier? wtf man? IMBA</p>
<p>- Upcomming version should nerf it to ONLY Magical Nullifier aura!</p>
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		<title>By: palyno</title>
		<link>http://www.dotastrategy.com/blog/660-tauren-chieftain/comment-page-1/#comment-58694</link>
		<dc:creator>palyno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to correct some stuff mentioned here. First of all, when ghost perform stun, it does just a half of the dmg. This stun has 2 dmg types, 80 physical dmg from hero and 80 magic dmg from the gost. If u use stun it does both of them, however if u use your ghost at distance, he will perform his magical dmg and hero will do his physical. 
About equip - i think dagger is waste of gold (not definitely, but u can spend it better). 
I would better use mask of madness. imagine situation: 5 heroes pushing with maybe 15 creeps. u use your ghost, than stun, than ulty and u run forward. When your ghost reaches u it gives u HUGE dmg (40 for every hero, 12 for every creep it collides with!!!!) and than ulty gives its dmg and slow. Now u trigger mask of madness and u kill them 1 by 1.
This hero is AWESOME and i am pretty sure, that he will be nerfed. 
BTW:ancestral charge is his best spell, max it first. dmg for stun is not changed by levels (just duration grows), so i put 1 into stun and than i max ghost and aura (of course ulty on lvl 6).
items: battle fury, mask of madness, heart of tarasq
trust me, i've played few pubs allready, i had in 4 games of 5 tripple kill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to correct some stuff mentioned here. First of all, when ghost perform stun, it does just a half of the dmg. This stun has 2 dmg types, 80 physical dmg from hero and 80 magic dmg from the gost. If u use stun it does both of them, however if u use your ghost at distance, he will perform his magical dmg and hero will do his physical.<br />
About equip - i think dagger is waste of gold (not definitely, but u can spend it better).<br />
I would better use mask of madness. imagine situation: 5 heroes pushing with maybe 15 creeps. u use your ghost, than stun, than ulty and u run forward. When your ghost reaches u it gives u HUGE dmg (40 for every hero, 12 for every creep it collides with!!!!) and than ulty gives its dmg and slow. Now u trigger mask of madness and u kill them 1 by 1.<br />
This hero is AWESOME and i am pretty sure, that he will be nerfed.<br />
BTW:ancestral charge is his best spell, max it first. dmg for stun is not changed by levels (just duration grows), so i put 1 into stun and than i max ghost and aura (of course ulty on lvl 6).<br />
items: battle fury, mask of madness, heart of tarasq<br />
trust me, i&#8217;ve played few pubs allready, i had in 4 games of 5 tripple kill.</p>
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