Comments on: Dota 6.60 - Reconsidering Item Builds http://www.dotastrategy.com/blog/dota-660-reconsidering-item-builds/ DoTA Allstars Strategy and Gaming Blog Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:22:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: andrew http://www.dotastrategy.com/blog/dota-660-reconsidering-item-builds/comment-page-1/#comment-61150 andrew Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:54:36 +0000 http://www.dotastrategy.com/blog/?p=584#comment-61150 Hey this is super insightful. I especially like your luna build and it makes me wanna try it. As for force staff, me and my friends just get it as a joke item and we end up pushing eachother around into an early death. Sometimes its for pushing teams out of hiding in the fountain, but rarely do we use it practically. Hey this is super insightful. I especially like your luna build and it makes me wanna try it. As for force staff, me and my friends just get it as a joke item and we end up pushing eachother around into an early death. Sometimes its for pushing teams out of hiding in the fountain, but rarely do we use it practically.

]]> By: reiva00 http://www.dotastrategy.com/blog/dota-660-reconsidering-item-builds/comment-page-1/#comment-59699 reiva00 Wed, 01 Jul 2009 12:37:00 +0000 http://www.dotastrategy.com/blog/?p=584#comment-59699 "I hope the above will trigger some considerations from both pubs and leaguers alike. I was like “OMG I’m going gaga (not Lady Gaga)” after I heard that 6.61 Beta restored Aghanim’s 75-second cooldown on QoP, after I b**ched blogged about it. Of course I’m being boastful here, since I don’t know if it will really be carried into the official version. But perhaps the DS blog is quite influential after all. " Hahaha... I knew you would react to the prince! The moment I read that, I was 100% u wud blog about it. NOW.. SAY SORRY TO THE TOAD! hahaha! Anyway, also regarding the force staff - watch this replay i posted: http://www.dotastrategy.com/forum/ftopic22421.html ^They used force staff (around 3 or 4 teammates) to save Bloodseeker several times. They even used it sometimes to isolate and kill. Altho their team lost, it is very entertaining. Watch... “I hope the above will trigger some considerations from both pubs and leaguers alike. I was like “OMG I’m going gaga (not Lady Gaga)” after I heard that 6.61 Beta restored Aghanim’s 75-second cooldown on QoP, after I b**ched blogged about it. Of course I’m being boastful here, since I don’t know if it will really be carried into the official version. But perhaps the DS blog is quite influential after all. ”

Hahaha… I knew you would react to the prince! The moment I read that, I was 100% u wud blog about it. NOW.. SAY SORRY TO THE TOAD! hahaha!

Anyway, also regarding the force staff - watch this replay i posted: http://www.dotastrategy.com/forum/ftopic22421.html

^They used force staff (around 3 or 4 teammates) to save Bloodseeker several times. They even used it sometimes to isolate and kill. Altho their team lost, it is very entertaining. Watch…

]]> By: The DS Prince http://www.dotastrategy.com/blog/dota-660-reconsidering-item-builds/comment-page-1/#comment-59682 The DS Prince Wed, 01 Jul 2009 05:40:52 +0000 http://www.dotastrategy.com/blog/?p=584#comment-59682 Ooo...really? Let's see that replay, link ploz. ;) @folechno Well, I like to be more conservative and think Vanguard would suit pigs well. And I don't like HotD simply for the fact it reminds me very much of Satanic :P Ooo…really? Let’s see that replay, link ploz. ;)

@folechno
Well, I like to be more conservative and think Vanguard would suit pigs well. And I don’t like HotD simply for the fact it reminds me very much of Satanic :P

]]> By: Mentalcowman http://www.dotastrategy.com/blog/dota-660-reconsidering-item-builds/comment-page-1/#comment-59653 Mentalcowman Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:21:00 +0000 http://www.dotastrategy.com/blog/?p=584#comment-59653 i just saw a luna in a league game with p.treads/MoM/BKB/ manta, worked fantastically and totally dominated. i just saw a luna in a league game with p.treads/MoM/BKB/ manta, worked fantastically and totally dominated.

]]> By: Rayn http://www.dotastrategy.com/blog/dota-660-reconsidering-item-builds/comment-page-1/#comment-59650 Rayn Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:57:33 +0000 http://www.dotastrategy.com/blog/?p=584#comment-59650 nvm i thut u dint notice the stacking factor but now i realise u get the diffusal for the slow and the add dmg, agi. nvm i thut u dint notice the stacking factor but now i realise u get the diffusal for the slow and the add dmg, agi.

]]> By: folechno http://www.dotastrategy.com/blog/dota-660-reconsidering-item-builds/comment-page-1/#comment-59646 folechno Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:01:16 +0000 http://www.dotastrategy.com/blog/?p=584#comment-59646 Force staff will be seeing play, because competitive play is about mobility which the staff gives I wouldn't say that Diffusal on those heroes is a new thing, I've been doing it for quite a few versions as for BB I don't think a Vanguard is needed, it helps a bit in tanking, but an Armlet does pretty much the same thing and gives other bonuses as well HotD vs MoM HotD is cheaper, provides + dmg as well as armor, the only thing MoM has going for it is +2% more lifesteal and + attack speed, none of the heroes you mentioned above will have high damage when you would buy MoM early in the game, it is better designed for those slow attacking melee heroes with superhigh base damage, also the Diffusal and other items you mention give the heroes the same amount of attack speed that a MoM would give, so imo on those heroes you mentioned a HotD is a better option your thoughts? Force staff will be seeing play, because competitive play is about mobility which the staff gives

I wouldn’t say that Diffusal on those heroes is a new thing, I’ve been doing it for quite a few versions

as for BB I don’t think a Vanguard is needed, it helps a bit in tanking, but an Armlet does pretty much the same thing and gives other bonuses as well

HotD vs MoM
HotD is cheaper, provides + dmg as well as armor, the only thing MoM has going for it is +2% more lifesteal and + attack speed, none of the heroes you mentioned above will have high damage when you would buy MoM early in the game, it is better designed for those slow attacking melee heroes with superhigh base damage, also the Diffusal and other items you mention give the heroes the same amount of attack speed that a MoM would give, so imo on those heroes you mentioned a HotD is a better option

your thoughts?

]]> By: The DS Prince http://www.dotastrategy.com/blog/dota-660-reconsidering-item-builds/comment-page-1/#comment-59632 The DS Prince Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:55:20 +0000 http://www.dotastrategy.com/blog/?p=584#comment-59632 @rayn Yeah. Anything's the matter? ;) @rayn

Yeah. Anything’s the matter? ;)

]]> By: Rayn http://www.dotastrategy.com/blog/dota-660-reconsidering-item-builds/comment-page-1/#comment-59629 Rayn Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:59:30 +0000 http://www.dotastrategy.com/blog/?p=584#comment-59629 MoM+diffusal on luna ? MoM+diffusal on luna ?

]]> By: qwerty31 http://www.dotastrategy.com/blog/dota-660-reconsidering-item-builds/comment-page-1/#comment-59617 qwerty31 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:54:12 +0000 http://www.dotastrategy.com/blog/?p=584#comment-59617 Hmm yes you raise many vaild points...Especially about Force Staff, the push on it is quite more lethal than you think, and as for Quelling Blade luls, probobly revolutionized the use of Melee heroes all together. Meh i dont stick to typical builds, ima random guy so i get some pretty wacko builds, making it all the more fun =D. Hmm yes you raise many vaild points…Especially about Force Staff, the push on it is quite more lethal than you think, and as for Quelling Blade luls, probobly revolutionized the use of Melee heroes all together. Meh i dont stick to typical builds, ima random guy so i get some pretty wacko builds, making it all the more fun =D.

]]> By: ghost http://www.dotastrategy.com/blog/dota-660-reconsidering-item-builds/comment-page-1/#comment-59614 ghost Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:41:34 +0000 http://www.dotastrategy.com/blog/?p=584#comment-59614 good old Quelling, making it easier for a Melee hero to farm imba carry items. ^_^ we all like our carry items. good old Quelling, making it easier for a Melee hero to farm imba carry items. ^_^
we all like our carry items.

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