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murdaman


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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:23 pm

extasy wrote:
Posts like murdaman wrote piss me off. He gone on to saying i'm noob cuz i say some ultis suck when paired with their counters... If u don't get that... If i was Puck, i would take phase shift to avoid zeus's ulti... What are u gonna do to Dragon knight with 2 blade mails, 2 HoT, cuirass and PT if u're magina???
U are gonna end up killing yourself ig u dont take satanic, and that disables mana break so no use of ur ulti(GOD DAMN IT, READ!), Tiny against nechantress has 90%slow when he hits her, and i think 55% slow from his ulti on lvl 3???
What, do u want to hit her once in 3 seconds????? 'If enemy has gem, gank him'- lol and what if it's 1v1 and he took gem on the beginning??? how are u gonna gank rooftrellen, centaur, leviathan or so? Everything is simple to u,
like- 'enemy has divine, butterfly, 2 bashers, satanic and a cuirass'- LET'S GANK HIM IT IS FACELESS VOID! Also, almost none of the str heroes make mana over 1000 late game, so u wont end up burning so much, and count magic reistance, 1.1-(1/4*1.1)= 3/4*1.1=0.825 if u burn 1000 mana and u need 15 hits for that... And i didn't say the best ultis are the one that do dmg... Anything misunderstood now?


@dohyun99 go head and try it i beat yo ass



you are a damn noob cus you think dat all the ultis are bad in some situations when dere ways to avoid dat.
how many games you seen a dragon knight with dat damn build when a magina in battle withit?rarely like 1 out 10
and i did read your damn post you douche bag.
and tiny isnt suppose to rush his ultis early anyway you save dem up fo later when you get assault maybe ulti once den later after you get assault.

'If enemy has gem, gank him'- lol and what if it's 1v1 and he took gem on the beginning???"


your so dumb talkin bout what if he took gem in beginning dere is no gem in the begining of the game no one does dat cus its not needed.gank means yo team vs one person not 1v1.
you think roof levi and cent are invulerable dey can be killed by gank.you prolly never heard of stun and disable.get roof befo he hides in trees like a pussy.levi aint shit without his ulti in most games the levi doesnt have a good item build and cent if the player is acually good dey would get blade mail fo him and its only a lil damage returned to you stun and disable him befo he can stun you so easy i done it many time but you actin like you cant beat those heros and i do think things are simple because its simple task ingame when i own a cent roof and a levi yo nooby comments are just plain stupid.
in the many many dota games i seen i never seen a void with divine and if the damn void has a gem it wont be hard to kill him in gank unless he has his ulti den be a challenged but if your all melee goin in its useless he chrono den kill all melees but a void whouldnt get a gem to waste up a slot if he has 2 basher bfly and divine i know cus if he want sanatic he need space and even if he gets chicken he would have substitute a greater item in his invortory fo the gem and its very unlikley a void would get a gem hes not a carryer hes a perma basher meanin all slots are important. nothing misunderstood cept yo dumbass throwin out some little counters to ultis dat can be re countered.all ultis are good and have their purpose.
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dohyun99


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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:57 pm

@murdaman-

lol.....he never said they sucked. He just named a few counters that yes, could be re-countered. Either way, you shouldn't call anyone a noob and I could whoop your ass all the way to Antarctica so stop acting you can take me and go play DotA.

--Anyways, Tiny with Assault is still gonna hit like once every 2 seconds against Enchantress,
--Phase shift is a good counter against Zues' ulti (which you never commented about, maybe his theory owned you?),
--it is possible for DK to get that (situational but lets say everyone on his and your team left, both of you would get ridiculous amounts of gold and items so it is possible),
--extasy never said Roofy/Centaur/Levi are immortal,
--in 1v1 matches some people take gem in beginning(especially against people like Riki),
--the "lil damage" you talk about can actually be a lot and it stacks up too (besides the fact that you're constantly being hit anyways),
--and finally, he never said ultis suck and have no purpose. You're putting words in extasy's mouth

Don't call people noobs and disrespect them when you misunderstand what they are saying. I'm not saying what you said is wrong (ultis can be countered/recountered and so forth) but you shouldn't say stuff that will obviously piss people off lol. Just be like "Hey extasy, I don't get what you're saying. No ulti sucks, they're all useful in their own respective ways. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you so deviate on what you're saying". That's how you should've of put it instead of saying stuff like "You're a noob!". So, in honor of what I just said, I'm sorry for saying I'll stomp on your face. Cool down ya? I'm just saying you could and should be nicer to the people in the community. Cool
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GaNkStA


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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:28 pm

Omg Just SDFU.
Seriously
Stop bitching.

I think Old Drow was worst ulti,
Best is Gaurdian Angel.
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pocoretarded


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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:49 pm

morph's ulti is pretty useful. the way i use it is if i see two heroes together and i know i can pwn one, i make a clone and send it to base. run in kill one and then take the spot of the clone. best escape mechanism ever. they probably won't run because they think it'll be a 2v1.

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coco616


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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:57 pm

worst is morphlings imo just cuz it doesnt have synergy with his skills. Why tele to an image when u have wave form. ANyways... Good job breaking up the fight doyhun. lol.
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Flodian


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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:27 pm

coco616 wrote:
worst is morphlings imo just cuz it doesnt have synergy with his skills. Why tele to an image when u have wave form. ANyways... Good job breaking up the fight doyhun. lol.

The ulti is quite useful, when your image has some sort of aura or skill. Like, Drow or Void.
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WhyIsLife


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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:27 pm

I have a definite answer. I used to play a LOT of clinkz. And I just think his ulti is useless, primarily for the reason I never really TOOK any damage. And generally, with Wind Walk almost permanantly on (the spell is longer than its cooldown), I just ran back to the fountain with 510 MS.

Never in a game have I found his ulti useful, and I have stopped using it in my skill build.

And don't disagree until you play clinkz, once you understand him, generally, you just don't take any hits from anyone.

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wafumetz1218


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NOOB

Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:43 pm

*TYRFRING

are you a NOOB? cause your just a poser so that people will think that you have a great idea. You can't trap any hero or even your hero in the forest you dumb. The trees will fall if you lightning grapple in that area. Next time talk things that are impossible. BOBO

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Enmity


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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:50 pm

ryoma96 wrote:
All of you guys know what he is inferring. I'd say the least effective ult right now would be Naix. I hope they bring back his avatar ult, his new one sux imo. Maybe I am just not using it right, but damnit, i rather have avatar. I miss the days of not needing to think with naix, jus avatar and go, Laughing Laughing Laughing

Nai'x ulti can be used to escape.

ie. when you're getting raped and you have no way out you can just infest in an enemy creep with relatively high hp remaining (not neutrals since then can kill it) and just chill there for a bit until it's safe to get away.

I'd say one of the most useless ultimates (imo at least) is that of pit lord's.

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Enmity


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Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:58 pm

extasy wrote:
Posts like murdaman wrote piss me off. He gone on to saying i'm noob cuz i say some ultis suck when paired with their counters... If u don't get that... If i was Puck, i would take phase shift to avoid zeus's ulti... What are u gonna do to Dragon knight with 2 blade mails, 2 HoT, cuirass and PT if u're magina???
U are gonna end up killing yourself ig u dont take satanic, and that disables mana break so no use of ur ulti(GOD DAMN IT, READ!)

pair up with SK and get vlads..haha

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coco616


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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:10 am

Pitlords is so amazing dude. You can tele your whole team to one creep for surprise, escape, help allies escape, lane control, or just get around fast. it pwns dude.
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Tfarcraw


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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:21 am

i love assasinate, track, vendetta, swap, thundergod's wrath, sunder, untouchable, replic8, chain frost, coup de grace, raise revenants, insatiable hunger, shapeshift, frost field, ignis fatuus, wrath of nature, rearm, overgrowth, psionic trap, dream coil, life break, mana void, invoke.. n so on...

koz i love dota... :D

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simon_rav


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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:33 am

Personal i dont like Dark Seer's ulti..
Sure! It CAN be a great ulti if used right, but i dont have the skill (or the luck) to place it at the right spot at team battles..

My favorite ulti is Omnislash! Very Happy
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dohyun99


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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:13 am

@coco616-
Thank you lol

@Tfarcraw-
I love Dota too Smile

@wafumetz1218-
Don't make fun of someone

@WhyIsLife-
I never found much use with Clnkz ulti either lol

@GaNkStA-
I'll act like I didn't read that

@simon rav-
I agree, Omnislash is amazing

Some great ulti's:
>Sun Strike - Easy kills and can be targeted ANYWHERE
>Chaos Meteor - Deals massive damage against running foes and easy farming
>Ghost Walk - Slows your opponents while being invisible
>Ice Wall - Deals damage while slowing foes greatly
>ALL OF KAEL'S ULTI'S OWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cool
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Enmity


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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:24 am

oh yea, forgot it can go to units

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