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coco616


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Manta sucks on spectre.

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:47 am

Why is it in all the guides. it gives 0 killing potential and thats what spectre does. Sure they have dispersion but they have 1/3 the health of you. When u chasing u cant stop and make illusions or the chase is done. I think Skadi and SnY are way better for spectre.
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Counter_Force[X]


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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:52 am

3 image=3 desolate chaos damage
approximately 160 chaos damage standalone deducted after normal damage

so tell me what sucks with that?
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:05 am

im split on the issue

i either go manta and radiance

or

SNY and radiance

both i find good

just depends how i feel
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sfsy1


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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:10 am

lol manta sux??
Desolate deals pure damage and illusions are great for escapes too.
Also, the extra damage from the burnt mana is not affected by the (illusions deal 200%dmg or 300) so its still good.
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omelette


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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:22 am

mantastyle 's a lot better now

40 sec cooldown, the illusion creating animation's shorter and works best with desolate

also it's good throughtout the whole game whereas SNY just sucks late game on spec

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coco616


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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:45 am

Well you cant chase with manta. after u cast illusions theyve ran.
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:09 am

Coco is right,
Manta maybe good in a 1v1, the only potential it could have is if you kept it at the Purge stage. -.-"
It truly does ruing what spectre is about
and images jsut get in way.
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:29 am

On the contrary, manta is good for spectre..because all the illusions have desolate which is terrifying damage if added with radiance(even though immolation doesn't stack). I think she does not need anything to chase as she has a good slowing skill(dagger).

And no, the opponents will not run away when u cast manta. Why? If you used haunt and reality, the enemy will only think of you as a normal haunting illusion that will not cause much harm to him. It sorts of lulls him into a false sense of security. It gives you enough time to activate manta and get a few hits before even daggering him.
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coco616


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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:38 am

No1 is dumb enough to let u activate illusions dude. You'd know if spectre was coming after u with haunt. When you KNOW you're visible on the mini map, and YOU KNOw he can beat you. You KNOW hes coming. Its a second of wasted time that usually messes up chase. and 20% slow aint much when it lasts lik 16 seconds and they have boots. I say Radiance SnY or skadi first. skadi is only 25% BUT its chaser item, cuz as u slowing u stay next to him and get successive hits. Also vanguard pwns on spectre.
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:59 am

As if anyone is that stuipd.
You cant click that fast,
trust me, they would be out before you could even get there.
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Counter_Force[X]


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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 6:27 am

do you realise sometimes they cant run? get disables? perhaps in mass clashes? Or because manta burns mana so they cant blink?
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sand_king26


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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 6:32 am

what manta sucks with spectre??hahahahah.I think not!!

I think you're the one who sucks..

It gives boost to your life and additional images...
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Counter_Force[X]


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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 6:37 am

sand_king26 wrote:
what manta sucks with spectre??hahahahah.I think not!!

I think you're the one who sucks..

It gives boost to your life and additional images...
or you're the one?
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Counter_Force[X]


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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:20 pm

blister195 wrote:
Counter_Force[X] wrote:
blister195 wrote:
spectre might be even harder to handle IF its equipped with Assault Cuirass(i assume that desolate isn't an orb effect...kinda forgot..hehe)...
what does AC have to do with orb?
desolate works if the opponent heroes are alone and it lowered their armor...and it might get lowered EVEN MORE if u got AC..plus 2 image with manta...nearly hard to kill..lol
desolate is not an orb
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lucretia


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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:21 pm

I never post or comment about anything. I'm quite conformtable 'watching' from a lonely part of the room.

anyway, the annomaly it is really a superfluous or unnecessary one and is as follows:

Counter_Force[X].... you must be an asshole.

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