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In your dreams maybe... 57% [ 4 ]


Could use serious work 14% [ 1 ]


Good but it still needs some work 14% [ 1 ]


Genius!!! Absolute Genius!!!! 14% [ 1 ]

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:39 am

Well, like u said, this guy's got almost everything...I dunno if he's good enough or not...We're gonna have to play the hero to find out hehehe...

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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 12:53 pm

loool yes... we will now woun't we
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:33 am

Guys!!!! HELPPPPPPPPPP!!!! How do I add the icons to my char??? And also... do you think it's good?
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:37 pm

Nerf the skills!!
No wonder it's too powerful for Torrasque, he's IMBA, heheh..
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:46 pm

just noticed to reduce his stats per lvl to high

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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:52 pm

Let's see
Atack range 150 (mellee)
Base move speed 315
Initial HP 450
Initial mana 150
Armor 2

Strength 16 (+2 per lvl)
Agility 25 (+3,5 per lvl)
Inteligence 15 (+2 per lvl)

Base atack speed 1,4
Base damage 40-50

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Hp should be 454
Mana should be 195

Str - 16 + 2!? ->>> +1.8 or less
Agi - 25 + 3.5!? ->>>>>>> +2.6 or less
Int - 15 + 2?! ->>>>>>>>> +1.8 or less
Attack rate - 1.4!? ->>>>> 1.8 or higher
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:04 pm

its ok but the skills are still to powerful

- The 2nd skill , if you want to cramp both crit and evasion you should reduce it to 20% chance since its evasion and crit.

-3rd skill, if you want this skill you should change the 2nd and nerf this one down to 205 then reduce inteligence bonus.

-and again the stats

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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:11 pm

GUYS IM BACK!

To 1vs1 battle, you can make the ulti also damage, but... not damage per sec, but instant dmg if you know what I mean! Like, Deals 300 dmg to enemy or so! You can nerf BIG time on the stats!

To add icons :
[img](insert the URL here)[/img]

Like that!

Have a nice day!
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:05 pm

did some major nerfing, including a whole change of the 2nd skill... how does he look?
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:10 am

Skills:
1. Super activateable command+haste aura. Lower MS given to 4/8/12/16. Mana cost can be 100/150/200/250.

2. Longer duration, bot less effective Berserker's Call(no helix, no 20 to armor). Incerase the cleave to 35% since it only lasts 5 seconds anyway and is mana intensive.

3. Lower the bonuses slightly, since this makes it a much better Jinada(Gondar) or Drunken Brawler(Mangix).

4. Mass Disable+Team support. Effects are fair enough, no damge to the opponents. Not many skills have an 800+ range. But windwalkers are fine, and so are other heroes with nukes at a distance. BTW, it is weird for a song of peace to stun enemies but allies are free to bash them.

Stats:
High MS for a hero with MS boosting ability. Above average stat gains. Nerf base damage slightly(High AGI gains). AS is fine.

Flavor: Bard. Nimble, Manipulates feelings, Charismatic. Plays songs that are more than just sound.

Overall: Battle AGI hero with Mass disabling support ulti. High damage, Average endurance.

Comments: I agree that you replaced your 2nd skill. The old one was boring and had no benefit on its own.
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:14 am

@Katta_Lin

is this what you are trying to put in your sig?
*the tag has a space on the end so ididn't show up*

off topic sheez...
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 9:44 am

Well,
About stats, he increase 3 for agile, is this means he is agile hero?

About first skill, isn't it too long for 20 seconds, what about halved it.
and don't increase ms & as at the same time with that amount, it's just like abaddon's skill which goes being balanced [and it only for one target].
if you want to keep this skill, i think it rather change into ulti.

About second skill, [again] I think it's too long [5 second if you compare for Axe's beserker's call, it's only 3 seconds]

About third skill,
Whoa! if you want to increase critical, don't increase it's chance [see yumero's crit and phantom assasin's ulti]. Choose one.
And for evasion, see Fleshless Void. he got evasion 25% only for one skill [and no status addition also].

About ulti.
It use mana way too high (what about 200, 250, 300).
And [again] the stun effect is way too long, reduce it (I think make it 2 seconds for all lvl, + 1 second for aganim, but increase mana cost 50).

but overall, I like this hero.
I'll give good poll if this hero is not godlike like now.
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:12 pm

Joxie... just one coment... first blood... see what the more experienced guys think.
1st skill: abadon also has slow so... I'm sorry the efects are not comparable. For example Magnus has a similar damage increase magic that lasts for a preety long time and that adds quite a bit of damage. Unfortunately he can only cast at 1 unit at a time but the cooldown is small and manacost also. This is a good skill but balanced by manacost

2nd skill Just a quick thingy... while Axe 's berserker's Call lasts less, he gains double the bonus armor (that is 20, and he also has that chance of counter helix for lots of damage, which I tried to give an equivalent but in splash. And the bonus is not so big... so I'm sorry to disssapoint you.

3rd Skill read it again. yurnero has a chance to do DOUBLE DAMAGE with every atack, at every level. Mine has a chance to do lower damage at initial levels and only at level 3 is it equivalent to Yurnero's crit... (2XDamage) At the first levels the damage bonus is smaller than yurnero, so... And Yeah, but Mortred has a crit of 4X and i don't want that

4th Skill (ulti) The manacost is so big because it is so good, and get real, it would be highly inefective with just 2 sec stun.. hell, just think of Rotfellen's ulti huh??? what about that?

The idea with this hero is the following... it is a great hero but it is HIGHLY ITEM DEPENDENT... you really need mana in order to use all his magics, but he is an agi hero. He is versatile!!! you can't abuse of all his skills and I made sure with cooldowns and manacosts, and also that stun efect after casting the ulti. so... I am sorry to dissapoint you, but this is how the hero was thought. A powerhouse when well developed, but it is balanced so it isn't a real menace in the early and mid-game. This is more of a late-game hero, because his skills get better by the level (Especially insight with critical and evasion)

So I am sorry for you, but this is just how the hero is
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:43 pm

Minor skill modifications.

Reduced base damage from 40-50 to 40-46 because as sugested, the agi gain per level was high enough

1st skill reduced ms bonus to 4/8/12/16 and also reduced manacost to 100/150/200/250

3rd skill Decreased chances of critical to 20% and crit damage from 2,25 to 2 but buffed the evasion to 30% So now the guy lasts longer but at the cost of damage... Sorry but mangix has 24%evasion and I will need the evasion for taunt... i don't have 20 armor, just 10 so beare with me here, it's necesarry

2nd skill slightly increased armor bonus (from 8 to 10) and buffed cleave from 25% to 35% but increased manacost a little (from 190 to 200)

Ulti
Added some other spells that interupt it (Missles from Tinker and bombs from Squee and Spellen)

If you know other long range spells, just tell them to me and I will put them in the description. Thanks
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 6:50 pm

Howwwwwwlllll!!! Fenris is with us. 10x wolfie
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