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moogle-taxi

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who can counter gondar? non agility char!

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 4:24 pm

ive been playing dota on lan gaming a lot now and the same guy allways, i mean ALLWAYS! uses gondar in every type of map.

ive been able to counter him with bloodseeker in a match becasue he ran away -.- dum dum...

but any chars apartf roma gility and apart from slardar that can kill?

any intel chars that can see invis chars?
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[piG]Jenan

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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 4:41 pm

any would own gondar...
try using enigma...
or enchantress...
or harbringer...
just dont 4get to build your necromicon!
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 4:57 pm

BS with radiance owns him

Tree with his nature wards

Slardar with his ulti

Lina with Scepter
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:12 pm

Lina and Demon make his early-mid game a living hell..
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:14 pm

try bane... you dont have to w8 for him to go invis... own him with a combo... XD
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moogle-taxi

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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:41 pm

does radiancehit invis chars?
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uhmm... Gondar??

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:24 pm

best int bet would be Aiustha with a Gem of course.

another int hero would be Aggron, of course get a gem and Gondar would be useless against you..

another one would be Vol'jin.. yeah..

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moogle-taxi

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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:16 pm

who is agron? sorry i dont know all of the name.
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Raxxar

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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:28 pm

Ogre magi -> Aggron Stonebreaker

And countering Gondar is as easy as getting a gem on a tank... Then just stick together...
Good candidates for it are every strength hero that has a stun... which is many =P
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moogle-taxi

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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:33 pm

thanx, ogre magi is one of my main chars but only problem is the harrasing of the oppsing team, this guy loves to go to the other side of the place and look at my screen to see what lane i am in, then go to it becasue he knows i cant handle invis chars. and i can nenevr place wards very well.

ogremagi would be nice but stunning for 2.5 seconds would not slow track down. he could cathc up and harras some more.
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Raxxar

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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:36 pm

If you're planning on Ogre Magi, then it's a suitable solution...
Way to play... Well, if he does what you says he does (search for you all screen), then he is a LOT like one of my friends... How to play against that? It only costs you 200 gold (or so) and it's called wards.... You should be on one of the "long" lanes (top or bot), so put one near each tower (but not near enough to be revealed of course)...
Then save up for when he comes... then just nuke him silly... Get lucky with a multicast and he'll be cursing you xD Multicast on gondar = dead gondar
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Bishounen2k8

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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:51 pm

@Raxxar

"It only costs you 200 gold (or so) and it's called wards"

LOL, . .

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well if you hang on a bit more and build your Aghanims, . .youll find that Aggron's stun is just sufficient, . . i thnk you forgot about his Ulti, . .

oh yeah and buy wards, . .
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moogle-taxi

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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:55 pm

hehe Aghanims on ogre is unstopable. 30% chance to 5 hit isnt it?

but you cant cast on an invisible char in the first place so wards is a good idea, but its a waste considering 400gold which could be put to better use on trying to slow down the other 4 opponents?
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Raxxar

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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:00 pm

You want to get on Gondar's face or not? If you think you can without them, then you need fast reflexes with the stun... If you can catch him a couple of times, then it will be near the same, but warding makes it a LOT easier...
And it is not a waste of gold if he truly is such a threat... Being safe is never a waste, remember that...
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:00 pm

Wards is never a waste, .

The one/ones laned with gondar are those that should place wards, . . and harass of course, . kill even, . .

Mid game you should be carrying Gem then, . .
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