who can counter gondar? non agility char!

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:58 pm


sexyrexy02, you are warned for multi-posting.

_________________

Signature Size Limit: 475x175 pixels [width x height]
One image ONLY OR up to 3 Userbars || 3 Lines of text MAX.
DO NOT ASK ME ABOUT YOUR PENDING STRATEGIES, HERO IDEAS AND/OR ITEM IDEAS

Back to top

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:01 pm

lol

I just imagined Tiny

with your high HP, you can survive his WW + toss combo
Your Craggy Exterior could easily affect him because he's agi
AvaToss could easily destroy his hp, hehe
_________________

I ask of you, are you my Master?

Back to top

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:05 pm

I just finishing typing that DS site tried to make me download something so when i went back it showed that I posted twice.. I'm pretty sure it wasn't my fault?
_________________

The mind shall vanquish the sword.

Back to top

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:09 pm

There is a so-called delete function.
And that blatant double-post after Ganksta's and before hellicek's posts.
_________________

Signature Size Limit: 475x175 pixels [width x height]
One image ONLY OR up to 3 Userbars || 3 Lines of text MAX.
DO NOT ASK ME ABOUT YOUR PENDING STRATEGIES, HERO IDEAS AND/OR ITEM IDEAS

Back to top

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:10 pm

silencer!!!
silencer can own all in 1 single hex!!
_________________
Some Drink At The Fountain Of Knowledge...Others Just Gargle

Back to top

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:35 pm

silencer is not very good to counter, becasue it does not stop the backstap damage and jinada so his crits are still massive.
and if you cast silence during windwlak it dosent stop him from being invis.
_________________

[img]
CLAN:FORBIDDEN SIRENS! 6 WINS 7 LOSSES!

Back to top

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:41 pm

ok! so what is it again? except slardar and bloodseeker a apammable hero preferably int and has the skill to damage invis heroes and help you win a team play?

why dont you try this...

Thinker:
-those drones will damage any heroes even invis
-has three spammable skills
-w/ refresher like skill
-and its like you got two assasinates

ITEMS: 1. ginsoo- hex,killer type item for spamming and for escaping
2. radiance- additional damage even for invis heroes
3. necro book or wards- help with ambush and kill heroes fleeing for their lives ...even invis

"or you could use silencer with hex stick and silence them to death!!"
_________________

Back to top

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:47 pm

when i ask a quesiton tinker never comes to mind for some reason Oo

why dont people use tinker more often?
also i thaught that if you used all three spells, re-armed, used all 3 again then used refresher orb? even thoguh that would be around 15.k mana wouldnt that be sort of an overkill?
_________________

[img]
CLAN:FORBIDDEN SIRENS! 6 WINS 7 LOSSES!

Back to top

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:08 pm

Tinker is not really a good choice... WW hit then WW again will start to slowly chip you to pieces... And with your low life, you will surely become a target for him... So, without any warding, I'd advice against Tinker... However, with true sight it's a different story... You might want to play dumb, let him come to you, then nuke him instead... If you keep doing this, he'll go somewhere else... Oh, and he might get pissed at you for this strategy, so he might come for you later lol
And I really like playing Tinker, I just don't think he is such a solid choice against Gondar...
_________________

Back to top

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:16 pm

Hey I just remembered..Sand King is also deadly against gondar. His burrowstrike doesn't need to be targeted(can hit invis units) and he can also use it to escape. His ultimate can also destroy invisible heroes like gondar, all you need is a BKB to stop him from casting shuriken and mini-stunning you.

He can also be harrassed without even touching him with caustic finale.
_________________

MyFanfic:Brothers

Back to top

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:26 pm

good idea, but he cans till harras SK a hell of a lot.


what about dirge? with radiance when gondar is level 6 you will hit an averidge of 170 damage without spells(radiance stack with aura)

??
_________________

[img]
CLAN:FORBIDDEN SIRENS! 6 WINS 7 LOSSES!

Back to top

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:33 pm

Dirge + radiance = AOE aura ownage.

But unfortunately it works a lot better with higher hp heroes and gondar has low hp =/ . But still..without even touching him, you may outlevel him by sending him to the fountain often without much effort.
_________________

MyFanfic:Brothers

Back to top

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:39 pm

Problem is, actually getting to the radiance... You don't start out with a lvl 4 item in your inventory, you need to farm for it... And that's what Gondar excels at, preventing you from farming... so, if you want to counter him, do so with a non-item dependent hero, otherwise you'll just suffer...
_________________

Back to top

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:49 pm

Yea..thats a problem too...but I was just discussing with moogle IF dirge had a radiance.

Addressing the problem about farming, if Gondar stops people from farming by WW->hit->WW he himself won't be able to farm properly and effectively(especially laned with someone like SK) unless he uses it on creeps..and even so, he can't spam WW's damage on creeps that much.(talk about irony).
_________________

MyFanfic:Brothers

Back to top

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:55 am



easy ... dont cast silence in wind walk ... cast it wen he comes. ..
and all he will get is a couple of shots max before u can hex him .. and with ur high int he can own with his glaives of wisdom .. i hav seen a silencer get +150 damage due to his intelligence ... he took out centaur in a couple of shots
_________________
Some Drink At The Fountain Of Knowledge...Others Just Gargle

Back to top

Reply to topic
Page 4 of 6    Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next / Jump to Page 123456



View previous topic   View next topic
All times are GMT

Display posts from previous:  All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First 

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum

Jump to:  Select a forum General----------------AnnouncementsWelcome BoothBugs & SuggestionsRules and RegulationsCORPO Center Dota Allstars----------------Latest ReleasesQuestions and AnswersHeroesItemsGeneral DiscussionsDream HeroesDream ItemsDotA ReplaysPremium DotA ReplaysThe Library Chit Chat----------------EtceteraJoke TimeGraphics CenterOther GamesFan FictionThe Armory Playing Online----------------Organized GamesHamachi Servers Archives----------------Dota Allstars ArchivesChitChat ArchivesDS Surveys

DotaStrategy.com Forum Index    .    Questions and Answers