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sigokil

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Non disabler-anti ursa and dps-anti panda??

Posted on Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:41 am

Ursa's weakness is disabler, but who can defeat him without disable skill?
And dps hero that can counter panda?
Two of them are my fave....
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stefpm

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Posted on Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:49 am

Luna
juggernaut
Dark Terror
Terror Blade
Chaos Knight
Naga Siren
Axe
Centaur

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sigokil

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Posted on Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:59 am

Luna - sorry, not more than 5 hits
Yune - two of them can tank bladefury
FV - sorry, miss
Imagers - just clap/shock then run, wait until the images gone
Axe - helix can't hurt them much
Centaur - 10 hits combo will pawn him, and see who'll win if he 1v1 with panda!!
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Tokemus

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Posted on Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:12 am

Sniper can take out Panda if he reaches late game... Ursa can be taken down by a good permabasher... Spirit Breaker can take down Panda... kinda. If Panda doesn't find a way to get rid of Charge of Darkness, SB can bash him into oblivion. And if Panda tries to escape with his ulti, SB can time Netherstrike perfectly to cancel it out Very Happy

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zen†

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Posted on Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:13 am

any hero cn kill him,.,if you are good user..

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thatlazyguy

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Posted on Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:10 am

ursa: naix, troll, void
panda: hard to say since haze owns all dps heroes
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sigokil

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Posted on Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:51 am

Nai'x, umm ok I'll try.
Permabash pawn ursa but they need their items to kill while ursa can pawn them easily at lvl 6. And they must use pure permabash build with twin basher and hyperstone because ursa buy a butterfly that means 30% miss.
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Posted on Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:40 am

SPIDER!
*Survives 5-hit combo*
*COMBO THIS! Activates Hunger...*
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mirana0406

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Posted on Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:51 am

at if ursa
go for naix,or any permabashers..

for panda...
can be terrorblade,troll with 1 basher and lothars...
try to permabash him so he can't cast a drunken haze on you ^_^
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Posted on Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:12 am

Let's see Ursa is weak against a disabler but you want to find out who can beat him with no disable. mmmmmmm.........

Broodmama or Naix will do the job killing him.
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hellicek

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Posted on Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:45 am

yeah broodmama and naix are good... and what against Panda? Can't think of anyone! Panda wif Skadi means spamable drunkem haze.. its pain to dpsers...

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CeilingFloorCow

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Posted on Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:59 am

Rikimaru for Panda. Sneak up on 'im, cloud --> attack. If he runs.. Well, he's running and that's when riki's at his best, you've practically won. If he gets drunken haze on ya, just back up, stealth & wait it out. Once it's gone, cloud & attack 'im again. Repeat as needed.

For ursa.. As stated before I'd say a permabasher. Or perhaps Drow.. Just kite him. Grab a lothar's if he himself gets one(Or if he gets a blink dagger!) so if he manages to sneak up on ya, lothar's ---> move away --> attack. Alien

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dnrg0F_Rzm

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Posted on Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:59 am

For Ursa: Broodmother or Naix. Usually people uses UPrsa as a counter to Broodmother, but when got the items, you'll win. I tried it.
For Panda: Anyone(haven't think of 1^^). Just don't let him farm for anything!
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GaNkStA

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Posted on Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:04 pm

Panda is the Anti DPS,
You cant kill him with those heros,

The way Panda wins is he gets heros in melee range,
Heros like Travex with a slow harras and silence should be able to tank him out,
the key to beating panda is not being in attacking/ stomping range.

Viper might be able to do it aswell.
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