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sfsy1


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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:03 pm

Satanic upgrade should be pushed back more!
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metallic_ghost


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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:11 pm

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:37 am

Lestat9208 wrote:
take treads, MoM, Butterfly and SnY cuz it`s GOOOD


Is it just a spam, the greatest mirana player ever ???

MoM > Helm of Dominator
I think MoM is better cos Naix's slow is limited. Usually i get MoM together with armlet so you can kill before the Open wounds slow fades away.

AC > butterfly
armor enhances your high HP, high att spd works great with feast. Also, since its acquired in lategames, it helps a lot when pushing. However against bashers, butterfly is better :/

PT = BoT
different purposes. If you wanted to play late game, BoT can be better because helps you to farm much better.

However, i usually buy SnY with Vlads. Because with his lifesteal, high att spd, magic immunity, escape skill, it is very hard to fight him 1 v 1 so with open wound and maim, they couldnt run nor fight properly. (maim - 35% att spd too)



You get mom with armlet early-mid game??
That's nice...recieve more damage while you lose 30hp/sec
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sfsy1


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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:49 pm

metallic_ghost wrote:
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:37 am

Lestat9208 wrote:
take treads, MoM, Butterfly and SnY cuz it`s GOOOD


Is it just a spam, the greatest mirana player ever ???

MoM > Helm of Dominator
I think MoM is better cos Naix's slow is limited. Usually i get MoM together with armlet so you can kill before the Open wounds slow fades away.

AC > butterfly
armor enhances your high HP, high att spd works great with feast. Also, since its acquired in lategames, it helps a lot when pushing. However against bashers, butterfly is better :/

PT = BoT
different purposes. If you wanted to play late game, BoT can be better because helps you to farm much better.

However, i usually buy SnY with Vlads. Because with his lifesteal, high att spd, magic immunity, escape skill, it is very hard to fight him 1 v 1 so with open wound and maim, they couldnt run nor fight properly. (maim - 35% att spd too)



You get mom with armlet early-mid game??
That's nice...recieve more damage while you lose 30hp/sec


Oh u are TRYING to be sacarsic here lol Hopeful

armlet gives 65damage increase and mask of madness gives 17% lifesteal. SO while losing so much HP, u are gaining so much of them back and of cos you could kill much faster( open wound's slow is so limited and has a 15sec cooldown <lvl4>) . Also, 20% damage intake does not affect the 30hp degen.

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sfsy1


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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:51 pm

sry DPed

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Lestat9208


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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:00 pm

@metallic_ghost
no need to get smart with me... it was an innocent double pst... wtf, my comp is trash
keep your frustrations for yourself...
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sfsy1


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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:34 pm

metallic_ghost wrote:
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:09 am

Why SnY+Vlads?? why not sny+satanic...i always get sny+satanic on heroes like balanar raxxar juggernaut lycanthrope... cuz these orbz stack ya know...i just don`t understand why vlads, i hate vlads, vlads isn`t that outstanding
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For a guy with mega-kill posts..you really don't know your orb tables..
If you said the items stack I would have ignored it but by saying that the orbs stack..thats where you are wrong my friend.
There is no such thing as stackable orbs..
in the case of sny/satanic lifesteal will take precedence therefore maim will not ever take place...
dont listen to the bullshit about how lifesteal will occur when maim isn't occuring...


Ok since we are talking about Naix, i will make it clear that lifesteal and maim stacks. Lifesteal and maim does not affect each other, its the orb effect that does not stack. Lifesteal from Vlads of cos stack with Maim, so does feast and lifesteal from Open wound do stack. So metallic, lifesteal do work with maim, orbs dont stack :/.
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kirujan94


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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:44 am

LOL. Im still confused for the many builds... I think I'll try different builds and see which fits best for him.

Looks like the new Naix is equippable with many different builds compared to the old stealer(butter,bashers,etc). Looks like a good and interesting hero for me, coz he can adapt to different games easily with diff. builds.

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Aliican


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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:53 am

Treads-Armlet-Y+S

GG FTW,

After Y+S u can get butterfly or hyper for more attckspeed.

And if u want u can get MoM too after u use rage.

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sfsy1


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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:18 am

Yes MoM+armlet works great for Naix, metallic, i think u should think again,

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You get mom with armlet early-mid game??
That's nice...recieve more damage while you lose 30hp/sec


More damage intake and degen for much effective killing, worth it definitely.
Thats why troll beserkers in melee games have skills which +50% attspeed and +50% dmg intake.
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:33 am

metallic is a very practical guy, the kind who reads all facts before aking a decision, not that kind of guy worships BFury on levi just because he spins with BF. he is like

me
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sfsy1


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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:31 pm

metallic_ghost wrote:
Rofl
5 hypers don't stack anyway..


well, CFX, hope u arent like him Smile

Also, Mom do not stack with Rage but Rage's duration is short and MoM gives 15ms too, which is about 50ms. Great on Naix imo.

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Lestat9208


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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:43 pm

cf[x]
metallic didin`t know that sny stacks with lifesteal, you should know that, cuz you`re good dota player... metallic ghost is just a shrimp who thinks he`s clever...
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:34 am

Lestat9208 wrote:
cf[x]
metallic didin`t know that sny stacks with lifesteal, you should know that, cuz you`re good dota player... metallic ghost is just a shrimp who thinks he`s clever...

Lol calm down there... maybe you guys should play a game and see who wins.
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:46 am

Flodian wrote:
Lestat9208 wrote:
cf[x]
metallic didin`t know that sny stacks with lifesteal, you should know that, cuz you`re good dota player... metallic ghost is just a shrimp who thinks he`s clever...

Lol calm down there... maybe you guys should play a game and see who wins.
Agree...Speaking just to speak is endless.
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:49 am

what im saying is he dot do something without a reason, and now since he knows hypers will stack, guess he will mass them
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