Bounty

Bounty

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:11 pm

ok, i know bounty is the gold you get from killing a hero, but I was playing a game yesterday, constantly asking for ganks. Nobody ever came, i was a little pissed I have to say, but i devised this plan earlier today!

It would be BOUNTIES, there would be a shopkeeper somewhere near your foutian, and you could give him an amount of money (something like increments of 100g) and when a player killed that person, he would get an extra 100-500, or whatever, gold, thus improving your lane position and only costing you that amount of gold.

So I do believe that this may just solve the problem of un-fulfilled ganks in dota.

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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:33 pm

haha that would make things fun (er maybe interesting would be better)
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:39 pm

could you elaborate a little more? this seems like a good idea and would definitely promote killing people more, but it might also affect the heroes people use and cause support heroes to be less played

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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:04 pm

Ummm,
idontgetit,


Well i think i do,

Well, i know you didnt devise this Idea,
You stole it From hero Wars,
Where the two players Duel and you bet on it,


Betting is Gambling and Gambling is illegal to Under 21's, Dota is played by under 21's
SHUUUUUUUUN

Thats a No for Me,
Its just another way to Pool your Ally.
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:04 pm

errrmm

so you're also saying promote KS in clashes?
and also, it would also increase the probabilities that your allies would go soloing

it could also be another way of feeding allies, or giving him gold, which is illegal, what do I point here?

you could always put a bounty on a noob, then make your carry hero kill him, let's say your resident Faceless Void, this would cause great imbalance in the game, that's why feeding allies with items is illegal

Let me give an example

let's say there is a noob feeder Kardel which is level gapped by let's say 3 levels and his items are all recipes, and you and your allies have a total of let's say 10k gold, then, you all put your gold for a bounty on the Kardel, make your troll warlord kill the noob, and he gains 10k gold, lol, in that state, a feeded troll could easily destroy the enemy team, or Faceless Void
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:21 pm

OK, ELABORATE I MUST. So you all have pointed out fatal flaws, i do believe i have an idea to stop all of those from happening. to address the possible feeding problem, like putting a price on a total noob sniper with all recipes. You can only put a bounty on a hero with, say 2 or more kills. And the "bounty shop" will be open for 20 minutes at the beginning of the game, and then closed, to prevent stacking a hero.

and to GaNkStA, it would be nothing like dueling because there wouldn’t be a closed space to battle, the bounty system would work in line with the game, and give money to the players that killed the enemy heroes (or split the money if the creeps kill him) and it isn’t betting, it is persuasion, well I guess it is bribery... oh well, i think it is a good idea.

And one last thing, there would have to be a limit, of course to prevent that exact thing from happening genos19.

IF you would like me to elaborate EVEN FURTHER, post to tell me.

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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:24 am

@altesta

you can delete a post by editing the 2nd post, you can see at the bottom part (the check boxes)

please explain, if the enemy will know if he/she has a bounty
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:50 pm

XD, ok ill do that.

Alright so the enemy will know if he/she has a bounty on their heads by a warning, like when someone gets a kill, like

"[insert name] has placed a bounty on [insert name]'s head"

but I'm not sure that there would be a simple way to show that you have a bounty on your head permanently, like if there was another column (which would probably be too many) in the score box thing to show bounties, or there could actually be a number above a single player's head. Something like that would be cool.

but honestly, i think that the warning in the colored text would suffice. but there are some STUPID DotA'ers out there.

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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:00 pm

I believe this is stupid. rly, no point in this.
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:34 pm

Well, I kinda agree with Ganksta... It would be a way to make your allies stronger by giving them your gold... There's a reason why you can't transfer your gold to allies like in normal WC3...
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:19 pm

also

when the enemies know about the bounty, instead of helping your allies, it would rather risk their lives, since when the enemy knows the bounty, they would make the hero with bounty as the bait, and prepare a counter gank

And another, why spend your money early on bounty rather than buying starting items to help you survive, I think buying a courier for your team gives more help than putting bounties
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:23 pm

Ok i see that genso19, for the gank thing, I have no idea how this will be countered, but that does kind of make it a little less practical.

And this service would be intended for people with solo lanes, I was lycan a few days ago, and I had two annoying nukers, well 1 nuker and a necrolyte. So I was calling for ganks and what, and very shortly I had gained over 1k gold. So really this would be for people who have an excess amount of money for their level, and really need to do something about it. Needless to say, i got a first blood double kill on them, but that is beside the point (damn i hate bragging about lame achievements).
But yeah if you do play on some kind of private game thing, this may be totally stupid, but I play pub games, and it makes sense to me because my team is full of retards all the time.

@ raxxar

it wouldn’t be a way to stack your allies, as i have explained, there will be a requisite to be able to have a bounty on your head, which would probably mean that the person playing is exceptional, so it would be tougher then just 3 shotting a noob to get 1000 gold or something to that effect.

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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:05 am

you could have used the 1k gold to form an HoD

how to counter it?

example:

You post a bounty on a pretty weak Lina Inverse, so the enemy knows it...
Lina goes to a lane ALONE, but unknown to others, 2 of Lina's allies hide near the lane, 2 greedy allies of yours come to kill Lina and get the bounty, Lina runs and the 2 allies of Lina shows up, and kills the 2 bounty hunters, you just wasted your allies' life
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:05 pm

lol by countered i meant the counter of exactly what you described, sorry for not explaining that, but that is what I meant. I don’t know how you can prevent that exact thing from happening though...

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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:59 am

That's kinda imba IMO. If you just pool in a crudload of money for a good hero killer such as gondar and he gets a crudload of gold from kills from this bounty and his track, it's GG for sure.
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