Why bfury should NOT be gotten for yunero. READ ON

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:21 am

woo..i can have a warning on this thread,, tickle your enemy??
wth is that? use your head too, battlefury is noob item? zzz
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i think your the one whos noob. the attack speed is not a problem
if you have butterfly in your inventory,, atleast 2 butterfly is enough to have super attackspeed, did you said only 140 damage? thats only the cleave
but if directly in to your enemy, you will get 500+ critical,
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:22 am

Thank you..finally a decent player with enough experience to agree with my observations XD

These days I just go boots->hyper->vlad->BoT->butterfly->skadi->butterfly

Lol funny build but works wickedly well..needs travels because you need to chase with skadi.

there are other fun builds like mjollnir but I'm going off topic XD
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:23 am

What a protagonist....
I'll say a 400 damage(mostly from crits) only deals 140 cleave w/ 1 BFury
Who the heck wants that?
So how about 2 Bfury, yeah i know you'll need the riches of the world to get the 8000k+ gold but simply, having perse in the early game really is one of the best condition and a little time then a whole constructed BFury, at this point you'll feel that it a bit hard to get but if you have already the first BFury it will be a piece of cake to get the next one,
And the IAS you say? it'll be a breeze to get butterfly,SandY,and any other dealing 500+crit and a 375+ cleave in creeps specially for heroes,
And can get a real big difference in omnislashing seing all of them dying in one slash,

It's just that i am saying that its not bad at all hope you get my point ^^

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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:25 am

yey. i agree with KawaiiDesuNeh,

i have to go,,

lunch time,, but my build on yurnero is battlefury,

but, i still watch this topic,
see yah later
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:27 am

@ metallic_ghost we stand together on this thread! i will back it up with replays man. My build always gets me godlike. and by the way people, you act like when you get battlefrury theres already a butterfly in your inventory, ITS 4300 GOLD! thats expensive, treads wraith bands and vlads by the time u have that and treads if you last hit well.

Amplirages guides is for noobs, no offense at all to him cuz its a great guide. I'm saying though that if you can last hit why battlefury? and who needs cleave when you could be tearing an enemy apart in 5 shots with other items? Its a decent item if you cant last hit and im sure it owns pubbies, but it just wont work out as well as other builds.
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:28 am

Hmm cleaving won't work while you omnislash unless it's the in between hits during the ult, which can be improved vastly with a butterfly rather than bfury.

But if you get 2 bfury..there won't be enough item slots for other better items..imagine 1boot,2bfuries that only leaves 3 more slots for items..not enough.


FARMING CAN BE DONE WITHOUT CLEAVING..goodness me, the way you guys talk, its like the only way to farm good is with cleaving..where do drow,viper,veno,clinks come from then? do they not farm well at all?
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:29 am

@KawaiiDesuNeh: Get Butterfly's or IAS items instead of Bfury's and omnislash will last longer, inbetween crits will be bigger, etcetc = moar pwnage then Bfury omnislash.

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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:30 am

Seriously, last hitting is EASY!


Kawaiidesuneh said:
What a protagonist....
I'll say a 400 damage(mostly from crits) only deals 140 cleave w/ 1 BFury
Who the heck wants that?
So how about 2 Bfury, yeah i know you'll need the riches of the world to get the 8000k+ gold but simply, having perse in the early game really is one of the best condition and a little time then a whole constructed BFury, at this point you'll feel that it a bit hard to get but if you have already the first BFury it will be a piece of cake to get the next one,
And the IAS you say? it'll be a breeze to get butterfly,SandY,and any other dealing 500+crit and a 375+ cleave in creeps specially for heroes,
And can get a real big difference in omnislashing seing all of them dying in one slash,

It's just that i am saying that its not bad at all hope you get my point ^^





ITS NOT BAD ITS JUST YOU COULD GET BETTER! please understand me.
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:31 am

Wish Ghost would come here and own everyone with his infinite contradiction since 1873 or something like that in his sig o.0 LOL
funny man he is

But having just one bfury is really really really really pointless..35% cleave just doesnt do the cleaving effect justice..back it up with your natural cleave or buy a second one
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:31 am

only 3rd reason isnt true
with just some cheap bracers or a bottle, your prob is over
they claim regen is for spinning, yet they dont use spin at all
good job btw

i believe deso or radiance on him farms better
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:32 am

@metallic_ghost: Lol cleaving for farming... IMO Bladefury is a pwnage farming tool by itself.

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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:33 am

me agrees
really if you play jugg well, you'll see bf is shit comparable to deso or mkb
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:37 am

Battlefury works best on Mortred with her massive 1k hits. She splashes 350 almost constantly o_O The reason people get it on her is not because of the cleave, but because of the massive damage it adds. Yurnero may crit more often than she does but his crits are only half of her's. Farming up for a Battlefury is painfully slow and after you get it, it only ups your farming skills by a small margin. "Oh look I can auto attack a creep wave now, oooooo I'm pro". That's what getting a Battlefury says about you.
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:38 am

Lol i'm glad more people are agreeing with me..I was afraid that I was the only person thinking along these lines, when Amp's guide was given a 5 star. Like Coco said..no offense but your guide was better as a using the hero guide rather than the build guide

@CfX My third point was that people say they get perser early to deal with their mana and hp regen problems, which can be solved mostly by vlad anyway..and the bottle as you stated..


@tokemus
on mortred is kind of viable but I still think to be truly effective on a hero with no natural cleaving abilities, you need more than one...
why does bfury give massive dmg? it only gives 65 which is the average damage it gives as a level 3 item..if you are not getting the bfury on PA for the cleaving, you are better off getting a desolator as it gives the same dmg as a level 3 item but gives better value for money
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:45 am

So is that the OK to farm up for a Maelstrom instead?
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