Why bfury should NOT be gotten for yunero. READ ON

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:15 am

pretty much like that
you're 2k away from your objective and you screwed it for cleave
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:20 am

Cleave is alright if u have 2 or 3 but theres just better items. You say you like it cuz u can take down many heroes, the problem with that is he is a 1v1 hero. Thats what hes made for. With vlads and IAS/DPS he CAN take on more than one at a time but focusing one at a time.
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 6:12 pm

ok i got tired of reading this post at page 4.. my 2 cents worth. whenever i play juggy (which i do a lot - hes a favorite) i start ganking from level 1. that means that i do die too..(unfortunately) and its easier for me to farm smaller items like claymore and ring of health rather than an eaglehorn. battle fury is the second item i get on him first being boots. i have tried alternate builds such as boots - hyperstone hyperstone hyperstone - vlads (didnt work too well my attack speed was imba.. but i was tickling them rather than hitting them) even tho i was doing it really fast! i think butterfly is a really good item on juggy however its just really tough to farm upto when all youre doing is ganking with the occsasional HUUGE creep wave thrown in.

also the cleaving attack might be really sad and low damage but ive always noticed when im jungling - whenever im hitting the large wildkin the small ones die too (saving me time) whenever i hit centaur his little outrunner dies too and so on saving me from hitting them all one by one.

two battlefurys is overkill - something like my 3 hyperstones build. i had a great omni but the other 100 seconds in between cooldowns i really sucked.

my 2 cents..

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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 1:45 am

but if you have read the previous posts all your so called 2 cents will have been addressed.
also tell me..you say boots, then bfury..how much slower do you want to attack? do you think your cleave will help in farming neuts? Even the small wildkins will proceed to rape what little hp you have..and how are you going to farm for your other items when you are forced to go back to the fountain every 20 seconds? and if you say cleaving will help when you are farming the creeps..that means you must be farming by just staying there and hitting the creeps mindlessly without last hitting, which is a nono..2 battlfury is not an overkill..sigh it is better than 1. Since the cleave stacks directly giving you 70%, that is what you really desire..a real damn cleave, not sissy style..that's how you get rid of Phantom Lancer, and take down multiple heroes..providing you have some good aspd to back it up.

BTW I have tried my ias build (treads, hyper, butterfly, helm, butterfly (that's the only items I got to before the game finished..sham)) and Got 21-3. Not saying that's a good score by any means..usually die less but got cocky, but I have gone the bfury build (boots-bfury-treads-bfury-helm-butterfly) and only got 14-5...LOL? jugger with 5 deaths? I only started my real spree after my butterfly, which was unfortunately delayed after farming for 12000 gold (plus the 6k gold for butter). Sure I noticed the creeps getting cleaved when I just hacked away at them, but I didn't notice me getting the golds any faster, because often the creeps would ks my gold. And what's so good about killing them faster? You will still have to wait for the next creep wave to come to you so you can mindlessly hack their limbs and not even get the gold for it..

and you know what? faster aspd with multiple crits were as fast as killing them with the cleave. and listen to this..BY THE TIME you get your aspd items, farming won't be much of an interest to you..killing will. and you could have done that if you got your ias items first.

@ghost & CFX
I seem to remember saying the exact same thing somewhere here in one of my lonnng posts lol..4k to farm up 6k? lol? How riduculously prepostrous..
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:46 am

well said people
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:48 am

This post needs to die.
Points have been proven.
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:52 am

I shall do the honors
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