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`UnholY`


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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 5:47 am

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I'm getting tired about these kind of forums.

I'm warning you, you know who you are and where this thread is going if no one will stop this.


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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 5:53 am

err
not to be rude or anything, but since I now know that you are talking to me, I think you should give me a reason what I have been doing so I can actually stop what I'm doing wrong? Isn't that the whole point instead of trying to be mysterious and making me figure it out by myself, because I don't know.

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I wasn't talking to you to explain it. Don't try to act like a mod. Anyway you don't have to post in this thread, it's not as senseless as you think. I just wanted to know what other people thought, and their opinions. Some people agreed with me, some people didn't. I don't think there was a vast amount of flaming, and I heard some good points.
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 6:05 am

@metallic_ghost

Stop telling people to stop acting like a moderator. That is my prerogative and the prerogative of the forum admins. You do not have any right to demand that of anyone here.

And for your convenience please go to http://www.dotastrategy.com/forum/forum13.html to view the rules and guidelines for posting as well as the warning system. This does not mean you did any wrong to be reading that, but I recommend reading it for clarity.

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War_Wrecker


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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 6:05 am

BTW

people get MoM.

just remember that you need a nice balance of damage and attackspeed. because whoopee you attack 3 times a second for 100 damage a hit, and for a TEENSY BIT OF MONEY thats 3 times a second for 120 damage a hit, thats another 60 dps.
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LOL @ topic, LOL @ replies, LOL @ feedbacks...

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 6:09 am

I BELIEVE we can only settle this through a VOTE!!!!!!!!

Battlefury for JUg or Not.. lolz

yeah i've read all the previous posts before i posted mine..

and that's my opinion.. coz the title says YOU SHOULDN'T..

why shouldn't I? it works for me, like you said, i'm not the only player in the game, but WTF do i care what they do? as long as i'm cool, i'm owning, i'm pawning, and i'm winning..

and yeah i like to piss off others with some of my posts recently, i apologize for that..

all in all..

i think Battlefury is still a considerable option for an item to be used by Juggernaut, it just depends on why you use it, how you use it, whom you use it for.

Alien

peace!!

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frOzEntraxex


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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 6:30 am

As i said, tis will be a hot topic.. Laughing

Maybe m_g, CF[X], Twisted, coco and Tokemus got the point why BFUry is not for Jugg.. They explained everything.. I read others' explanation, too, but.. There's always a better choice (items) for Juggy.. Why not farm Radiance instead.. It's also good for farming (if you depend your BFury for farming) and chasing.. Juggy's role is to carry a team, kill enemy heroes.. You want regen?, m_g said, "why not make linkens? which is wayyy more beneficial to him in more ways than one",
btw, Radiance gives evasion, plus, you add your farmed Butterflies, w/ your linkens, maybe you'll owned the game (no BFury)..

Why dont you try it yourself.. No BFury to jugg.. Trying is not hard..

But then, BFury can be an optional item..

That's IMO.. So, no flaming.. Laughing

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Re: LOL @ topic, LOL @ replies, LOL @ feedbacks...

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 6:37 am

tr3ncht0wn wrote:
I BELIEVE we can only settle this through a VOTE!!!!!!!!

Battlefury for JUg or Not.. lolz

yeah i've read all the previous posts before i posted mine..

and that's my opinion.. coz the title says YOU SHOULDN'T..

why shouldn't I? it works for me, like you said, i'm not the only player in the game, but WTF do i care what they do? as long as i'm cool, i'm owning, i'm pawning, and i'm winning..

and yeah i like to piss off others with some of my posts recently, i apologize for that..

all in all..

i think Battlefury is still a considerable option for an item to be used by Juggernaut, it just depends on why you use it, how you use it, whom you use it for.

Alien

peace!!

Alien
now thats a good way
i dont mean the poll, of course in DS theres a lot more BF lovers
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rambol


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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 6:45 am

where has the love gone? Don't force people to not get Battlefury, you play your way, they play theirs.

Ever since Amp's guide Battlefury has been receiving a lot of flack. Getting BF doesn't necessarily mean that you have to auto-attack, the cleave is just a bonus early on, it gains usefulness later on when you have more damage items to back it up. Battlefury puts damage AND regen into one item slot, along with farming/pushing ability later on. In very large creep waves, you may find that not all creeps get hit, and there's a chance that your creeps might get the last hit on the low-health remnants of Bladefury. A couple of cleaves should kill the remnants.

I might try your advice though and try not getting Battlefury in my next game as Yurnero. Peace.
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frOzEntraxex


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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 6:49 am

rambol wrote:
where has the love gone? Don't force people to not get Battlefury, you play your way, they play theirs.

Ever since Amp's guide Battlefury has been receiving a lot of flack. Getting BF doesn't necessarily mean that you have to auto-attack, the cleave is just a bonus early on, it gains usefulness later on when you have more damage items to back it up. Battlefury puts damage AND regen into one item slot, along with farming/pushing ability later on. In very large creep waves, you may find that not all creeps get hit, and there's a chance that your creeps might get the last hit on the low-health remnants of Bladefury. A couple of cleaves should kill the remnants.

I might try your advice though and try not getting Battlefury in my next game as Yurnero. Peace.


Yah, you have a point, too.. And yeh, try it.. Its fun!,

btw, if i cant farm well, i go for BFury build.. Laughing

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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 6:50 am

haha
nah I didn't force anyone to not get bfury..just stating my opinions, and maybe *trying* to convince other people that there are better items that can be gotten instead of everyone getting bfuries; because the other day a person called me a noob for not getting bfuries, and that jugger's high percentage critical can net you double,triple kills...and we argued for quite a while but in the end my score showed and his didn't..

yes I know what you are saying, and that's what the other guy said too but if you calculate..400 will cleave 135 damage only, and even if you do 600 damage, its only 210 damage cleaved, which just isn't worth it in my opinion..get it if you want, but I thought I might as well try and convince some people that it's not as 'precious' as some people think..
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 6:52 am

battle fury is important for farming early game..when u gang bang by 3 melee u can wipe out them easily..

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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 6:56 am

no you can't
read the previous posts.
you can't wipe them out easily as you say..
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:09 am

Raito_plus wrote:
battle fury is important for farming early game..when u gang bang by 3 melee u can wipe out them easily..


Your joking, right? tzKk.. Juggy cant kill 3 heroes early game, even you have your BFury.. -_-,

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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:24 am

Lol you wish Juggs could take out 3 heroes in early game...

I was awestruck by amp's jugg guide. I thought it was really, really good and it's quite obvious he put in alot of hours to make it so. IMO it deserves all 5 of its stars. I also pulled out of the comp because of that guide, no way i can compete with something like that if amp is in the comp too... although recently i been thinking about going back to my venge guide...

On the subject of items to get instead of Bfury, i would get The Buuterfly or SnY


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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:56 am

TwistedFirestarter wrote:
i would get The Buuterfly or SnY



Maybe you get the 2 items.. Laughing

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