magina?? plz kill him..

magina?? plz kill him..

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:21 am

always get annoyed by magina...
no mana and keep chasing u...
plz tell me how to kill him if in 1 and 1 battle...means not gank by a group of allies...which hero and item the most suitable 2 make him be killed??
plzzzz help

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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:37 am

doom bringer
under doom, no mana burn, no blink and no void
get arcane early to harass the hell of him. i dont think he will get shield early
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:46 am

try Using Huskar .. he is actually very easy to play ...

and huskar dont need mana to cast spells he only needs HP ... so magina's mana break and void skill wont work ...

and Huskar has more good control on the lane .. because he is Mid-range STR hero .. so just harass him until he goes back to fountainn .. then uget the level advantage .... and even in 1v1 ... you OutDPS magina ... because of the Berserkers Blood .. giving u more Damage and Speed when low on health ...
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:48 am

no way..a farmed magina will kill doom easy even with doom on, and if I was magina I would get lifesteal and go neuting for 20-30 mins, but if I was Doom I would set up wards and gank him more..but if I was am, I would probably counter-ward o.0

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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:48 am

doom is a good idea and so is nerubian assassin..
your manaburn > his
stun > blink (for 2 seconds)
vandetta > void
spikes > him if you get some damage return (he can only take vlads)


yep in the end, you are greater than him when it comes to pushing..
and early game he foods you to the max
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:52 am

@Ghost

i dont think NA will be a good counter for Magina .... since NA needs mana for him to use his 3 skills ...

even if u get the Carapace .. with just vlads Magina can kill NA easy ...
and if u do the NA combo (vendets+strike+impale+manaburn) .. magina can tank that and blink away to safety ....

@thread Maker

well i also think that it Depends on the Experience of the players .... even if a hero is countered by the enemy .. in Pro's Hands .. u can still be owned
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:00 am

but magina can't get near you without any mana... and you have a ranged mana owner...
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:06 am

You need disables and/or silence, or if you have the right hero, permabash. To be honest, AM in a 1v1 battle is very unfair, since if he has the upper hand he'll mow you down - but if you get the upper hand he'll just Blink.

Counter heroes may include (I say "may" because I don't play 1v1 and actually despise it as there's little skill in it after First Blood since the killer will now be rigged by comparison)... cough. Heroes may include:
Troll Warlord* (* permabash)
Faceless Void*
Slardar*

I was going to list disabling heroes (see Rhasta, Lion) but the thing is, its a 1v1 game, and if you get a disabler the single person you are facing will get a BKB and make you absolutely useless. This is why I don't like 1v1.
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:08 am

@Ghost

yes ... u have a good point there ... and maybe NA can own AM early but in Mid-Late .. i dont think so .... and i think Magina wouldnt need to Use void ... because we all know that NA is a very Fragile hero like magina ... and with maginas mana break .. NA wont be able to use vendets or impale to escape Magina's Permabashing skillz ....
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:10 am

40% return is greater than vlads leech.
add 2 blade mails and you have great armor and 70% return, then stack up some survival, na kills through the combo rather than attacks so he can live off boots blademails and hearts.
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:11 am

barathrum or void.
perma stun he cant blink away
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:12 am

yeah .. like Shimrra said Void can also be a good Counter ... because of timewalk to escape , Chrono to stop maginas Permabash , Backtrack and Bash .. to keep up with magina on 1v1 ... but sadly ... Void needs mana to cast Chrono and Time walk ...
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:13 am

if you initiate he wont rape your mana.

if you get manta, you can own his mana (and provided you have a basher, can have prolonged bashes)
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:15 am

slithice is another good choice
with manta your burn>his
and your DPS is generally higher, not to mention anti blink and anti hit skill with manta
less than 20% people got the real naga in first hit
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:17 am

probably even less...
but yeah, only if you use manta first.. otherwise they get a 33% chance to get it right..
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