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godzilal13

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Axe with butterfly ?????

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:06 am

Hello everyone....i have a question for you...what happens when Axe has a butterfly combined with his counter helix???... the missed hits from bf can trigger counter helix ??? i think not.... so butterfly is a bad option for him or it will increase his survivability with a cost of dmg (175)???? ....thanks!

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OnlyTheHeart

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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:07 am

the missed hits wont trigger counter helix.. so its a bad idea

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Mortal Tree

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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:09 am

yea, not a good item 4 him
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coco616

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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:10 am

yeah its pretty dumb, he needs all tank items
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iankath123

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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:16 am

hahaha yah ryt Laughing

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dota_amateur

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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:28 am

butterfly bad on him
reasons:
evasion decreases chance to trigger a helix
attack speed and damage is wasted since axe dont need it
it is one of the worst things you can put on axe
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[piG]Jenan

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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:42 am

awh...
misses wont trigger the helix...
so instead of butterfly get heart of tarasq!
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yukino_silvermaine

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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:07 pm

Wow. A lot of people here are misinformed.

The Counter Helix trigger is checked on attack and not on hit .
This means that when anyone tries to attack Axe, there is a chance that Counter Helix will trigger, regardless whether that attack hits or misses.
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:16 pm

Even if it is on attack (I have no idea, but I'd trust Yukino over you guys), Butter is still a silly item for Axe - more tank items please!
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honya

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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:18 pm

Seconded yuki's post.

So yeah, that's why when you got Called, spamming 'Stop' command so you won't trigger Helix is a bad idea since it actually triggers more Helixes at you!
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sigokil

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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:25 pm

Maybe butterfly is optional but I prefer cuirass since 30 damage from agi is wasted.
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razoz

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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:32 pm

Helix triggers om enemys animation, therefor it´s triggered even when you evade.
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malicef

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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 3:59 pm

No because if you evade then you cant helix. it only goes if u get hit.
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sexyrexy02

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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:45 am

Lol Axe with Butterfly is like eating a fail sandwich.
You would definitely buy a Heart with the kind of money you need for Butter. No Questions asked.
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flipper

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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:15 am

instead of butterfly, go for Mjollnir. its the best!!!
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