Counter.... a list of heroes, items, and their counters

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:31 pm

phantom assassin is not phantom lancer.
phantom lancer dies to axe because images can't handle the counter helix


phantom assassin with a divine rapier or 2 *rolls eyes at this*
can 2k crit and hopefully axe won't be alive anymore...unless he helix's the crit
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:51 pm

moved to the library upon request

but i have no powers in the library lol
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:53 pm

The AI likes to dominate Chen's creeps with HotD >_>
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:58 pm

LOL

i didnt know that but thanks for the info

A good counter to Chen is Furion with Nature's Wrath (not really a counter but it allows your ulti to get stronger without having to time it or have vision of some neutrals for max damage)
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:12 am

who can counter troll? purge does that??
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:13 am

who can counter troll? purge does that??
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:26 am

...there is a counter listed you know, how about you take a look instead of making a cryptic double post.
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:31 pm

all who needs mana - magina!
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:30 pm

...are you all stupid or something?
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:43 pm

Sorry, but its really not very infomative.
because Disables are counters to every1 and nukes are counter to every weak hero.
You should just give special cases, like TB is exceptionally good at Tankers etc.
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:28 pm

this is the quick "i need a counter" guide.
it has been said already various times that there is a more in depth "look at" counter list coming when CF[X] comes back in december.
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:33 am

well, this quick "i need a counter" guide has some problems with it:

1. Abbadon a counter for tiny? Yes, borrowed time and shield block hes nukes, but is it exclusive for tiny? no, its for any DPS. Also, Abbadon, being melee and having bonus attack speed from Frostmourne just give himself 24% chance to get stuned.

2. Yurnero and Barathurm is a counter to Mangix? Yurnero and barathrum is DPS, and drunken haze directly counters it. Mangix also has a great ultimate for countering Yurnero's omnislash. As for barathrum's ultimate, it has a casting delay, and Mangix can easily use his ultimate for that.
It seems like its directly the opposite.

3. Enchantress a counter for silencer? I guess its the opposite. Last word just increases CD of lvl 4 Impetus by 4. Also, she will be unable to heal and slow if she were to cast impetus. Again, the opposite.

and i've only read less than half of it.

No offense really, but i would like to give a suggestion:

Classify heroes in groups:

Strong AOE nukes: TS, Tiny etc COunter: magina/Abbadon
Strong Single target nukes: Lion, Lina etc Counter Puck/abbadon
Mana dependent: Purist Thunder, etc Magina, NA

U get wat i mean? classify them and generalise. Thus making less mistakes and easier to read because of the much shortened length.




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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:10 pm

damn the uploder site is banned in my country lol. İ cant download it.

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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:38 pm

so is there a counter for mangix?
he seems uncounterable...
dps doesn't work, permabasher doesn't work...
mass disable+image hero?
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:42 pm

anyone who can disable him long enough to prevent him from doing anything (heavy disabler/permabasher/etc), a mana burner, or a silencer.
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