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mv20vm


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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 3:07 pm

AI practice is good for skill and items familiarity. Also it enhances your farming skill. Moreover, AI's are superb in last hit and deny so better challenge them and I guess you wont win. Certainly you can take them down if you have core items coz they are all dumb! 1 always do 1 vs 5 when I'm bored playing against quitters online. Like I never had a decent and finished game, in the middle some quit and even early game after first blood leaves the game. Its so frustrating so I'll just play against AI 1 vs 5
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 7:20 pm

IMO, it is reasonable. By playing so (AI+) u could improve ur farming skill, items familiarity and so on. Yes, u need other human players to learn ganking or so, but AI help u mastering basic important skills. If u really want to learn play 5vs5, u with 4 easy against 5 insane. Or if u r still beginner, start with 4 normal or insane. Playing 1vs1 or 1vs5 or so wont improve u a lot...
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 7:39 pm

you can train some combos with recipes for example agility heroes with satanic butterfly .etc, 1 vs 5 insane is really easy, all you gonna do is defend in the early and mid game, then you dominate late game ..
ofc it doesnt have to do with anything about real 5 vs 5 gaming except of what i said.
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 8:54 pm

practicing to automatic denieing and last htiting is reasonable against insane ai, they are programmed to do it perfectly, so its a mass challenge.

and yes they do use their ultimates on insane mode AI+
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:10 pm

blexxx wrote:
AI's are only good if you want to practice last hitting those stupid AI+ denies so good but if you want to practice strategy and learn new things play with real people
The Ai doesnt lasthit properly...eg if u have Rikimaru, you do because of backstab more damage than the Ai is calculating with...so it doesnt deny...same with barnathrums effect Wink

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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:16 pm

Play agginst real people instaed
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Tokemus


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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 11:06 pm

Lol AIs are stupid... Use Sandking and learn Sandstorm and they'll continuously go in and out of it, never crossing it -_-
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 8:21 am

You wanna train? Well then don't train with AI's because AI's are stupid. Why not training with me, The Best Player.
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[piG]Jenan


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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 8:30 am

if you think youre better than ai's then try playing with them...
lets say...
5 games?
if you lost 1 game...
youre not that good i could say...^^,





INSANE ai's pls...
no EASY! and NORMAL!
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i_am_me


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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 8:38 am

@above

dota v6.51 ai+ 1.52??

how much is the enemy and the ally??

1v1? 1v2? 2v2? tell the exact number...

yeah, they're good at last hitting, but i'm still better.. ^^
but some heroes (on AI's) are good..

example slardar or broodmother..
usually they got Beyond GODLIKE streak.. with me as an ally or enemy.. --" (-sdnpspne)
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 9:39 am

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you got beaten by an ai+insane?
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angelic tutpikz


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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 9:46 am

i can beat 3 6.48 ai+ insane..without -ne and without -om
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[piG]Jenan


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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:15 pm

i_am_me wrote:
@above

dota v6.51 ai+ 1.52??

how much is the enemy and the ally??

1v1? 1v2? 2v2? tell the exact number...

yeah, they're good at last hitting, but i'm still better.. ^^
but some heroes (on AI's) are good..

example slardar or broodmother..
usually they got Beyond GODLIKE streak.. with me as an ally or enemy.. --" (-sdnpspne)



if you're reffering to me...
then its a 1 vs 3?
thats the can's of a normal players ryt?
^^,
and yeah...
6.51 ai + 1.52
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kev199302


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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:34 pm

yea i agree, AI+ ALWAYS DENY and they do it really well... takes alot of practice to get the kill before they deny especially if u r melee and they are range...
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 9:42 pm

You want a REAL Challenge? Try 6.43 + 1.4 by RGB - you'll $#!t bricks. A few friends and I would do 5v5 team practice against a mix of AI difficulties and we would have to work HARD for our victory (the AI would be 5 but a mix of Insame and Normal).
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