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sexyrexy02


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Some general mechanics of the game.

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 12:43 pm

I have a few questions regard some heroes, I searched the damned Search Tool it comes up with 177 pages I just think it's ridiculous.

- I was thinking if Naix hit a hero with Stout Shield, his lifesteal would proc. But I am not sure, someone clear this out for me?
- A quicker an animation skill is better than a slower animation skill? Therefore, DK's shield stun would effectively cancel out Axe's Ult being used? Or just a misconception or a bug? I've seen Axe's Ult been canceled before by stunning etc.
- MKB/Basher is bad with Crit?
- MKB/Basher is bad with Orb? (I don't think so)

Thanks

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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 1:34 pm

1-it will proc but the damage done by his lifesteal is unreduced due to the mechanics unlike lifesteal derived from damage
2-yes. ive seen axe blade gets canceled so many times by NA's mana burn
3 and 4-no. if you have crit, there is no other damage based items you can get but mkb and DR. in other words mkb is best. about orb with mkb, this works very well with all orb but manta. mkb bestest ally orb is desolator(i exclude bashers from this discussion as i have never used this)
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:35 pm

Who dares to lock?

I just learned about Naix, O.O unreduced
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:04 pm

CF[X] bascially answered your questions.... but yeah.... lifesteal is calculated by your attack damage on the enemy.... regardless on how much damage they receive.... get the difference?.... items like stout shield blocks damage received.... so.... no deterrence of lifesteal amounts....

for question 2.... the answer is yes.... BUT.... if you're talking about stunning.... my answer is no.... as you'll still be killed.... but he'll get stunned.... for mana burn though.... yes....

for questions 3 and 4.... NO NO NO.... countless people have this misconception.... assuming bashes to be orbs.... THEY ARE NOT.... okay?.... the only skill affected by this.... is bash itself.... and fury swipes.... if the opponent is bashed and a new bash occurs.... the new bash overrides.... for fury swipes.... when the bash occurs.... fury swipe's counter drops back to 0.... but for orbs.... no.... okay?
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darkness79


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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:55 pm

i go for bash and crits on bara. works very well..

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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:26 pm

lol if u have butterfly and satanic with naix like no1 can kill u really lol
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:30 am

@crystal-ice off topic

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1 like cf[x] said you will lifesteal no matter what, if you are talking about whether the stout will reduce the amount of life steal due to damage prevented, no lifesteal triggers based on how much damage you are doing, not how much damage the opponent is taking so even if stout reduces the damage you get the same amount of life steal

2 faster is always better, and yes spells can be interrupted, i would think if you stunned axe while he's casting but before the effect, it would stop the spell because he was stopped before the effect, mana burn works

3/4 I think you're asking if both triggers go off, will they interfere with each other? I'm pretty sure they will interfere. you can get both items but I don't think you can proct both bonus damage and crit or bonus damage and an orb because only 1 buff can be applied per attack


also mkb and bashers together are a bad idea because which ever stun is done last will take precedence so the ministuns from mkb will stop any previous bashes from the bashers and could allow the enemy to get out of a stun lock
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