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Should I do moar?

No ending time set.
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30%

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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:47 am

the old retro i was saying is about heroes like bone with HoM farming up for 40 mins and goes out to pawn everyone, an absolute chaos

i have come to sneak upon purists ability with a replay preview by tokemus, absolute monster with just few stats items
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:54 am

yeah i got beyond godlike in 20 mins during an IH game with shim, i started with 5 circlets and solo'd against juggs. missed getting him for first blood to creeps but got him the second time with the imba pure damage heal of doom.
with this i got myself a tower kill and proceeded to buy Vlads most of sange and boots of speed.

anyway from there it was downhill for them.


and i still do the retro 30 mins of farming thank you very much.
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:59 am

yes it's still viable, but not for every game

as we all realise, there is now generally 3 ways to play bone

DPS ganker
carry
and one i see popular, GSV

you cant expect to carry in all game, where heroes like slardar and purist now viable as a good line-ups

you'll have to resort to ganking sometimes, where having HoM is an advantage

but yes i like carry bone, PT+DR+Butter and all the way to BDing towers
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:12 pm

Disagree on Bone - there is still solid Aegis, unless the opposing team is not in the same level of the team ofcourse to let Bone get DR-Aegis. Solo Bone is so-so, killing Bone is same with NA but with less effort due to tremendous low HP and no disables of anysort.

Article is fine - basically presenting an introduction to the new metagame presented to the latest version.
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:14 pm

Ya Caspian is right. Medusa + Om,niknight is insane. But the maps ight right now.
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:26 pm

there's better

omni is well teamed with dusa as dusa is one of ommni's biggest threat
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:59 pm

Omni definitely earned his spot - though I'm still doubtful for Medusa. Also, before everyone says PUUUUURGE, just no. Medusa is too weak before getting farmed, and the only thing she can do is Purge before she gets any item - and that Purge can remove Repel/GA from one person every 10 or so seconds. I don't see how it helps that much?
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:15 am

Dusa just needs to be banned not picked, I'm sure Sylla will get much more popular now a days and who knows we might see the return of Chen.

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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:39 am

Why would Sylla become more popular?
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:50 am

LOL sylla is good when the user is a pro but sylla is useless when teh user is NOOB...same goes for all the heroes...medusa + omniknight = super slow...I hate it when that happens...but there's one counter...use tp...but if medusa gets mkb, lol no escape
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:59 am

what happen to Sandking??

Is sandking still popular in the new versions?
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:03 am

I proposed Omniknight + Medusa so that it becomes much harder for the enemy side to counter Omniknight's spells. However that does not diminish the fact that Medusa has indeed grown more powerful herself and can be a powerful threat if not dealt properly.

MYM players who played in a mock draft game in 6.52 conceded that the 6.48b strategy of 'ganking' heroes constantly does not work very well. Instead 'farming' has become more comfortable, like CFX notes. This is the very reason why I said Medusa can become powerful because she is a 'farming' hero just as Clinkz is. Also remember the hand of Midas.

Hence the idea of banning these 2 heroes.

I think Syllabear is so-so in 6.52 - still weak against certain hero combinations, but strong against others and yes Chen may be used more frequently but not as intensely as 6.37.
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:53 am

How about DPS heroes like viper and razor, are they being affected ???
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:12 am

i think that viper is making a comeback into league games while razor has faded out to a certain extent, viper has a reasonable attack animation and damage, with the ability to orb walk people to death at level 5, while razor is a lot more item dependent when it comes to killing things (although he is greatly assisted by some farming skills), with the buff to HoM viper has gained far better farming abilities that he previously lacked...

i would write more but i really don't have the time, some dps heroes are making a comeback into league games because of HoM, others aren't
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