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radiance or BF.....which is better for Dragon Knight?

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hzjhk


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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:37 am

I think BF is way better than radiance, cause with DK's dragon blood and a ring of health that is 9 health tegen each sec early game. That can be done easily if you knwo last hitting. and you can get it at store on the side way which mak eyou sty at a lane long enough to farm alot. BF also giv eyoru mana regen too, not liek radiance, you need 3.8k stright for demon edge, you can jsut start using the funciton of bf before even complete it. It will giv eyou mroe bonus liek health and mana regen early, and make you farm faster than radiance. BTW, DK is not a chaser, cause at lvl 3 dragon you can slow plus your stun no need to chase.
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:38 am

Sorry about typing errors i am in a rush
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:48 am

Completely off topic but a good DK can win with Boots of Speed Vanguard and Pers.

As for Battlefury VS Radiance.
Radiance wins as battlefury does NOT work on a ranged hero.
and yes DK isn't ranged but 90% of your real fighting will be done ranged.

i much perfer to get AC then dominate with a massive attack speed and 100% frost splash.
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hzjhk


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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:16 am

Well as i siad either BF or no cause BF can giv eyou regen early game but radiance only give you 60 damage and 35/sec which is part useless on DK. And damage from battlefury stil work on range but the cleave doesnt work. it doesnt matter. Bf is basiclly a small foutain for you with his draogn blood the enemies cna kill you untill late game which is also very very hard.
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:33 am

for those who have trouble farming, bf... if you have alot of money, get radiance, but it doesn't really help the team much in terms of your tanking role.
i think sange and yasha is a good mid point.

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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:34 pm

I go for bf personally and everyone calls me noob because cleave doesn't stack... Bf gives regen to help spam fire breath/ imba stun, gives good damage and its cheap! Cleave is just a bonus and it's not like he is in dragon form %100 of the time...
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:52 pm

hehe....its obvious the most popular is BF...why?oz its is easy to farm and u can use it item each by each until u got BF...
by the way,BF splash is stack when dragon form...and BF give u around 69 atack dmg(if im corect)..thaths quite high man..
radiance quite nice for dk but u need 3.8k then 1.6k for the skroll...if u ben gb like hell,how u can farm easyly to farm that radiance..if in competition,many of DK user will prefer BF then radiance...=)
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:54 pm

BF stacks with Dragon form! u sure? i never bought it for DK coz i thought it didnt!
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:04 pm

yeah...im sure..many time i make BF,then the splash arround the enemy is mmuch more dmg then the preious b4 i bought BF...=)
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dohyun99


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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:11 pm

the cleave from Battlefury doesnt stack with ranged units...

if you have troubles farming, buy a Hand of Midas. Why would you buy an item to farm when it's worth over 4k? and i honestly dont think either of them are neccesary but since the topic is asking which one is bettter, i say radiance as long as you can farm for it...

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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:58 pm

yuspfs88 wrote:
yeah...im sure..many time i make BF,then the splash arround the enemy is mmuch more dmg then the preious b4 i bought BF...=)

Like dohyun99 said, cleave doesn't work on ranged units. The reason you are seeing damage splash is because the dragon attacks splash themselves.

http://www.dotastrategy.com/hero-10-KnightDavionTheDragonKnight.html

wow I can't believe this thread is still going on, with no end in sight

OT 3 more posts then I will have more than dohyun99
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:09 pm

@Dohyun99
"Why would you buy an item to farm when it's worth over 4k?"

i really have to disagree here :/
BF is not just a farming item. It gives 65 damage. and considering the regen, its very very worth compared to relic, which is already worthy compared to other damage items.

Early, pers is useful for DK as it helps him to constantly gank, harrass. So why not upgrade it to sth offensive.

@topic

I feel BF is better (in a pub) Since more mana = more Fire breath = more hero last hits.
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:12 pm

sfsy1 wrote:
@Dohyun99
"Why would you buy an item to farm when it's worth over 4k?"

i really have to disagree here :/
BF is not just a farming item. It gives 65 damage. and considering the regen, its very very worth compared to relic, which is already worthy compared to other damage items.

Early, pers is useful for DK as it helps him to constantly gank, harrass. So why not upgrade it to sth offensive.

@topic

I feel BF is better (in a pub) Since more mana = more Fire breath = more hero last hits.


Exactly!
Dk is a good ganker bcos of his dragon + stun !
BF gives him the mana regen he needs and also some nifty damage

But as always RESPECT other ppl points of view
IMO Item Builds area always Situational!

3.25 sec stun! nothing to laugh about Laughing
tried radiance but cos my teamates were screaming the hell out of me to gank,so i took bf then got radiance

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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:20 pm

I disagree Bfury does stack with dragon form. Try it. Im not sure but I dont think DK's attack changes to ranged even though it has so much range. Maybe its like basher on troll. If you pick it up in mellee then change to ranged you still get the 15%.
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:23 pm

MacGregor wrote:
I disagree Bfury does stack with dragon form. Try it. Im not sure but I dont think DK's attack changes to ranged even though it has so much range. Maybe its like basher on troll. If you pick it up in mellee then change to ranged you still get the 15%.


BF never EVEr stacks with range form of any hero
AT ALL!!!

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