need help, how to counter broodmother on a 1vs1 match??

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:07 am

axe-reason is obvious
DK-because of breath fire and splash from elder dragon form
ES-reason is also obvious
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:46 am

reason is also obvious huh?

A 3 years player or what you called a pro player don't build push type when his enemy is axe and raigor,

uhmm, i think Medusa can't purge now the insistable hunger on 6.52c. [correct me if I'm wrong]

yah, difusual blade makes her ulti useless, but brood mother is too smart, after i use purge, brood will use her TP scroll or run away, then if the insistable hungker is cooldowned again, she will activate it and attack, then the enemy will use diffusal, then brood will use TP scroll again,

i think broodmother is so hard to defeat on a 1 on 1 match,
but anyway, thanks for the reply and suggestion.
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:02 pm

Leshrac will nuke the shit out of her early game, and as soon as you see those red lights stun and run for it. Then guinsoo and stun will do wonders.

Or, get TerrorBlade. No lifesteal on illusions is great. Plus soul swap works through bkb too(at least for you). You could also go Naga Siren with manta build, you'll have the purge before the manta, and a 5 second net and sleep ulti will make sure you'll escape. Plus, when you activate illusions you'll dispell her slow , and it's bye bye.

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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:07 pm

w0w desolator gun, you have a point on leshrac

but i dont suggest a nuking hero, because bkb is only the counter on that,

terrorblade, but if he can survive till late game,

but thanks a lot on naga siren, i'll try that soon, =))
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:14 pm

earthshaker with purge

go mental with AOE

your ulti stops her pushing with little spiders
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:55 pm

I would just do centaur lol blademails hps and lifesteal, hell wouldnt even need to run during his ulti, if he has alot of damage u already have blademails and thorns if its early and he harrasses, well nm he cant harrass a cent haha. A gem on cent shuts down everything and you out push him all day long, His spiders die I think after 2 hits haha just pick cent go blademails and vangaurds and end it b4 lvl 16

If you are not sure if you know how to do this "it does take some when to stay when to run xp" but just straight build for war, double life steal and with a gimmic "by gimmic I mean a forceful move to bend his playing" A Deso/assult build forces him to have to build armor or your straight melee will rip him apart life steal or not you can outlast him with right timing on the fight or flight method I was talking about.

In the end you basicly become to hard to kill, BKB throws a monkey wrench but hps will over come his "burst" damage, cent has the ability, just finger him a bit till u figure out what makes him gallop

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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:31 pm

DPS > Insatiable hunger

Stun > Insatiable hunger

Disable > Insatiable hunger

BKB broodmother?

DPS > BKB Broodmother

PermaBash > BKB Broodmother
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:38 am

my friends and I believed that broodmother is unbeatable on 1v1. it all depends on the user's experience. if brood-user is a pro, then its terribly tough. brood is an insane harasser, killer and pusher. kinda imba too.

if the game is "mid only" then she's impossible to beat.

try sand king, burrowstrike + epicenter combo can work against him. sand storm may also come in handy. lastly, hope that the brood-user make a lot of mistake.


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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:31 am



There are ways around BM's life steal. But the pudge issue you are refering to has bigger issues. The reason pudge (as well as VS) is not allowed to carry blink dagger is because then he can just blink into a hole somewhere, hook an opponent in and either kill him or blink out and leave him there to use the unstuck command. With VS it's blink into a hole and swap with enemy and then once again either kill or leave there.
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:27 am

I don't quite know how to play DOTA because i only played about 70+ games but I'm a ursa fan!! So just go with ursa in a 1v1 situation!! With vanguard,offering,assult.. & wards/gem,BM is going to run asap!! Don't care about the annoying spiderlings.. They nothing to u if their mother dies. I think a win is easy but a kill will depends on how you played, agree?
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:07 am

If Bm and tiny were to be at their best build each will farm till they get their desired weapon (lets not include things like 6xdr) and no running away allowed

Brood mother build use your best build.

Tiny:
Assualt cuirass (must have)
HoT (must have)
HoT (or exchange with yet another butterfly or blademail)
Blademail (or exchange with buriza)
Butterfly (must have)
Satanic (must have)

I think tiny will win.

Reason:
Craggy exterior will stun you
Tiny also have avalanche which is spamable if he is max lvl max build.
Blademail will return the massive damage deal by BM
Tiny damage is also more than a BM and has good atk spd also because of AC.
Life steal too so bm life steal tiny will also life steal.
Tiny will have more life than Bm anyway because he is str hero

I hope you guys understand what i mean.

So what you think?

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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:51 am

wow..i think it's not a problem how to defeat brodmother..1 is medusa and the other are the 4 permastunner,(void, jarakal, barathrum and slardar.)..i think it's all depend on the player. the bottom line is how a player manages the game.
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:11 am

Bane easily owns many DPS for 1 v 1, maybe except Magina.
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:26 am

@baddepts - i think your right,
it depends on the user,
but my friend [nevermore] have a 3 yrs of exp in dota
he is not a 1v1 player but, monster on team battles,

@Bishounen

but bkb > any of disable

your right on dps > bkb

but broodmother have a tremendous 80% lifesteal
and she is also dps too, and she have incapacitating bite that makes enemy slow and miss,

@aklo

zzzz, tiny will eat broodmother alive on early game.
brood can harass, farm and deny easy,

blade mail are useless because broodmother have bkb and 80% of lifesteal
i know graggy exterior is effective but useless when brood activate the bkb,

on late game, broodmother can kill tiny in less than 10 seconds,

@pMkr.zaY - no need to explain, i ignore you

@quale, sandking? epicenter is useless on broodmother,
i saw broodmother lifesteal even sandking casted epicenter,
and if you have bkb on brood, it so hard to battle on giant spider,

i think i should try naga siren and slardar,
anyway, thanks for suggestion
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:00 am

didn't anyone think about the Spirit Breaker
when we fight i just got a threads and SnY and he can't barely move.
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