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folechno


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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:13 pm

he isn't too hard to use and he can chase so fast and then finish with a nuke

it's not quite click and kill like razor or drow but it's very similar
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Fabz


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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:51 pm

i dont think that gondar is easy to control by newbie..

gondar has 3 active skills and usually (almost all the time) newbie player will use wind walk for escaping not for harrassing enemies.. that's a wrong type gondar

I think its possible to kill gondar if we prepare sentry or gem or micon..other simple way to stop gondar is just pick slardar or rooftrellen.. that's my opinion Very Happy

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jundi20


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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:21 am

hi

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horur


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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:49 am

Read Shazzam's guide, and the comments!!! Remember the CD on WW. I, personally, HATE playing as Gondar, I dont play WW's well. I'm better at playing as carry heroes. That I just love Very Happy

But Gondar is a noob friendly hero, u should recommend him to ur friends, because he is easy to kill with.
Make them read Shazzam's guide.
Really, DS has gotten some really good guides recently. A very positive evolvement. I can just say; use it. We got some talented people here Wink

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scaltz


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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:52 am

jemual wrote:
Gondar is considered a not easy-to-handle kind of hero because he has some skills that noobs get difficulty in using. They need to learn from his skill unlike if your razor, you already know what to do, just chain! chain! and chain!

@Mukitur Reza

SNY < Imba Gondar


Lol...In my first 2 weeks I had a difficult time using razor and luna (Sniper is WTH I destroyed a building withouth even getting hit o.O). And when I used Gondar....1st time I already first blodded then after a killing spree...I was killed by balanar
then after that I got a godlike chain....maybe the enemies are just n00bs..I learned that using razor's frenzy is utterly noobish (100% increase while 20% dmg taken Sad ) and picking ulti at level 6 is well...not good...stats are better to bring up than frenzy Surprised xcept at l8te game Laughing

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folechno


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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:31 pm

jundi20 wrote:
hi


there is a thread for that, it is found here
http://www.dotastrategy.com/forum/ftopic4708.html

@topic most heroes are pretty easy to use unless you try to play like pros and do combos and juke and other advanced gameplay things

read shazzam's guide, it helps

the easiest and very noob way to harass with gondar is to use wind walk, and then when the cooldown is over, attack the hero once and then windwalk, and repeat. you won't get any gold and not too much experience (unless you opponent doesn't deny) but it is so easy to do
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mirana0406


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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:38 pm

it can be on the top 10 easy hero to use, but gondar is not the easiest..
for me, the easiest to use would be kardel and razor.
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sexyrexy02


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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:58 pm

It's like this,

Gondar is the hardest hero to target with your mouse in dota.
Try it! It's friggin impossible.

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mirana0406


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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:04 pm

yah, gondar and treant is the hardest hero to target with mouse,,

last time, it took 1 laguna blade left to kill gondar, and badluck,

i can't target it on gondar because of collision? and gondar have very fast moving speed.
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pocoretarded


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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:26 pm

BH, is probably my favorite hero to use. The whole arguement between SnY and Butterfly is kind of stupid. If both players are of equal or similar skill the one building SnY will have an advantage early. The items to build SnY arent that expensive and immediately helpful. Plus you can switch things up if you need HP get sange first if you're owning and want to hit faster and harder get yasha.

Saving for butterfly early hurts you so much throughout early game. Plus BH has natural evasion so buying a butterfly is kind of a waste. I much rather getting as assault cuirass over butterfly for BH.

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moogle-taxi


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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:06 pm

very easy to use.


simple item build, s&y thern valds, then jus MKb... and its gg for him...


my list of easy chars in no particular order...


1.sniper
2.rikimaru
3.gondar
4.bloodseeker
5.balanar
6.troll
7.clinx
8.magina
9.luna
10.axe




but all the rest are just point and click charactors... and at a point you can just stand there are win... mostly the same item builds...

i would put traxex + kroblous in there, but their silence takes quite a bit of skill to preform properly.
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coco616


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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:09 pm

1.balanar
2.troll
3.Drow
4.Meepo (I DONT CARE IF U THINK HES HARD CUZ U MICRO, if u just select all and atack they die.
5. GONDAR
6.Bloodseekr
7.clinx
8.sniper (fragile early)
9.luna
10.Razor
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VampirePrince


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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 7:18 am

I dunno why but i haf difficulty using gondar mayb im not a gondar user
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VampirePrince


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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 7:39 am

No reply?
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moogle-taxi


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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 1:47 pm

coco616 wrote:
1.balanar
2.troll
3.Drow
4.Meepo (I DONT CARE IF U THINK HES HARD CUZ U MICRO, if u just select all and atack they die.
5. GONDAR
6.Bloodseekr
7.clinx
8.sniper (fragile early)
9.luna
10.Razor


hehe our list's are quite similar :P

@off topic meepo, erm, you need quite abit of skill to execute blink+poof+net combo...

@ topic, gondar shold have 0 deaths if used correctly, but its all about the opposition.
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