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ogre-magi


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Yasha...Just Yasha

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:47 pm

Well, is there any time, or any hero u get only yasha on? It can be helpful i guess, but don't like getting this during mid game when late game its a waste of an item slot. Your thoughts/comments?
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Raxxar


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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:51 pm

It is kinda helpful, but as you said, if the game looks like it's going to drag, it will end up being a waste...
Heroes it's good on are Rikimaru, Phantom Lancer and Venomancer... Those are the ones I heard it's good (only tried on PL, and it was good enough), but I'm sure there are more...
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Vakma


Monster Kill Posts: 278 Joined: 20 Jan 2008 8613 gold

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:58 pm

Yasha or Sange alone are an total waste of money if you ask me.
Yasha
-21% AS...this could be pretty useful...
-7% MS...an total waste...
-16 agi (or dmg for agi heroes)...again an waste...

And these 3 things for 2050g...for this money you can get Lifesteal (MoM or HoD)...or you can get crits for an mere 300g more...

Conclusion? Yasha alone is an waste of money

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WhyIsLife


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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:59 pm

On the topic of things stacking, all orbs stack with SnY, just not as effectively. For example, a Satanic + SnY will offer you 25% lifesteal on all of your hits apart from the ones which activate main, which essentially means you get 25% lifesteal on 85% of your hits, which equates to approximately 21.2% average lifesteal.

Well I swayed off.

Basically I love yasha because of the movespeed gain (though I am hardly buying it solely for the movespeed gain). 2250 gold for 10%MS, 26%IAS,
3.6 armor and 16 damage (on agility heroes).

NOTE: The MS bonus from two yashas does not stack!

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ogre-magi


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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:02 pm

WhyIsLife wrote:
On the topic of things stacking, all orbs stack with SnY, just not as effectively. For example, a Satanic + SnY will offer you 25% lifesteal on all of your hits apart from the ones which activate main, which essentially means you get 25% lifesteal on 85% of your hits, which equates to approximately 21.2% average lifesteal.

Well I swayed off.

Basically I love yasha because of the movespeed gain (though I am hardly buying it solely for the movespeed gain). 2250 gold for 10%MS, 26%IAS,
3.6 armor and 16 damage (on agility heroes).

NOTE: The MS bonus from two yashas does not stack!



Correct me if I'm wrong, but i don't believe that you can maim if you have a Satanic and SnY
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Raxxar


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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:02 pm

The MS bonus from two Yashas doesn't, but the MS bonus from Sange & Yasha (the item, you know, the two in one), and Yasha's does...
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Vakma


Monster Kill Posts: 278 Joined: 20 Jan 2008 8613 gold

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:19 pm

Maim is the least important orb efect (damn right and it's the most useles...10% chance to slow is pathetic) and is overriten by all other orbs

Conclusion,when you have S&Y or S the maim will not work with lifesteal,manaburn etc

It has been proven in the past

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Atakanoguz


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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:48 pm

Well there was a guy usin trollwarlord. He got 2 yasha s and he was runnin and hittin like crazy when his ulti is on. Pwned all Very Happy

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Atakanoguz


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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:55 pm

I think whyislife is right.. if you maim the target, you wont lifesteal but otherwise you do..

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Amplirage


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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:03 pm

Satanic and maim do not stack And remember two of the same ms increasing items will not stack.

I don't think yasha is that useful alone. Perhaps as an early-mid game item for some heroes but not as one of his main items.
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Deiu


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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:14 pm

try getting s&y along with sole yasha on barathrum....along with his passive skill = sweet dmg...and plus a great ms,esential for such a hero Wink

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coco616


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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:13 pm

I believe on SB it is viable.

BoT+S&Y+Y = 512 MS.
Thats quite a bit which = like wut....+81 damage from MS?
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:37 pm

Get this if you're planning to be a full chaser hero.
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quale


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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:39 pm

if like you're winning and your team plans for one last push, and you have 2300 golds left. i guess it's ok to get yasha.

hmm... but usually, i get hyperstone.
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:44 pm

I have to admit that I stay with Yasha alone whenever I play Sniper cuz I want to save the orb-effect for EoS. Therefore, I do stay with only yasha.
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