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creator5489


First Blood Posts: 23 Joined: 19 Sep 2007 924 gold

PLEASE I NEED HELP !!!! About backdoor

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:09 am

We played dota(pub) 5v5 and with money bet 5$ each player

Scourge(Us) Kills/Deaths
-Magnus 6/3
-Vol'jin 4/6(Me hahaha)
-Lich 13/1
-Leviathan 2/6
-Warlock 1/3

Sentinel (Our n00b enemies)
-Rexxar
-Swapper <----Doesn't swap even once WTF!!
-Omniknight <----Feeder
-Earthshaker <----The Ace of Sentinel
-Roffy <----So dumb he bought madness and he attacks MAGNUS ??!!! Whenever he OG

They say that we lost bcoz of BD(Backdoor)
Warlock attacked a moonwell near the sentinel's well but there is still creeps but they pulled it(Pulling is not allowed in the game)But we forgot to call a foul then they saved then it DISCONNECTED?!!!!

Also Warlock summon 2 Infernals and attacked the 3rd tower about 4 times X 2 Infernals without creeps because they got killed of wildaxe or fissure they say every 3 attacks is counted as 1 BD and we have 4 FOULS?!!!!

The items
Sentinel

Magnus - Battlefury,Cristalis,Power Threads, 1 Aegis first one was used we killed 2 ROSHANS 31 Minutes and 44
Lich - Meka,Aganims,boots
Warlock - Refresher, boots
Me - Linken,Power Threads, bracer
Leviathan- Battlefury,Bot,2 bracer

Scourge

Omniknight - SnY, Treads
Rexxar - Arcane,Sange,Yasha
Swapper - I think almost no item Confused
Earthshaker- Dagger,2 bracer
Roffy - Treads,bracer,MoM FTW!!!!,Claymore

MATCH RESULTS
We pushed the 3rd tower mid,long range and meelee barracks 2nd tower left and right, We pushed the 1st tower in the World of tree then they -bleep-' GOT DISCONECTED Reason : They saved......and the save is almost 4? But we got lost because of the BD of Warlocks. We watched the replay about 3 times the Backdoor was proven and The pulling of them is also proven???

And we have a rematch tomorrow SAME HERO, SAME PLAYER and double the BET 10$ FTW!!!!!!!

Questions that i want answers

-I wanna know if we gonna win again??(VERY SURE Laughing )
-If backdoor legal?
-How many attacks to be counted as a backdoor?
-How they got disconnected ? Is it because we saved for about 4 times?

I almost forgot we still have 2nd tower on mid,left and right
AND WE OWNED THEM ON 32 minutes we pwned their barracks on mid MUAHAHAA and lich got double triple kill hahaha TEAM KILL FTW!!!! Cool

PLEASE I NEED ANSWERS IN THE NEXT 3 HOURS

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Moon_Raven


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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:13 am

Well perhaps saving can sometimes make some players disconnect.
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gonz22


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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:20 am

was it lan or GG?? or bnet??
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creator5489


First Blood Posts: 23 Joined: 19 Sep 2007 924 gold

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:26 am

it's LAN and 5$ in bet each player and rematch 10$ each and i wanna know is BD legal and i want answers on my specific questions

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GaNkStA


Warnings : 7 Godlike Posts: 1050 Joined: 12 Dec 2006 24477 gold

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:33 am

Well,
Yes BD is Legal, its not illegal, ONLY if you are backdooring in Base, which you were, and you should remove your units and run away immeddiatly, Very Happy

Well pretty much you guys were going to win anyways, Gg Lich <3
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creator5489


First Blood Posts: 23 Joined: 19 Sep 2007 924 gold

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:36 am

Really !! BD IS LEGAL ??? Any websites can prove it??? but moonwell is counted in a base is it????

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sfsy1


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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:42 am

creator5489 wrote:
Really !! BD IS LEGAL ??? Any websites can prove it??? but moonwell is counted in a base is it????


No official website says its illegal, thus legal.

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rambol


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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:45 am

BD is perfectly legal. It's up to the players to decide and specify what additional rules they might implement.

Oh, and in a rematch you'll definitely win. Call for one right now before they improve.
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vince35


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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:46 am

Well,
Yes BD is Legal, its not illegal, ONLY if you are backdooring in Base, which you were, and you should remove your units and run away immeddiatly


I didn't understand that statement.. Could you clarify it a little?
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creator5489


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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:03 pm

So we get our 25$ dollars back??? YAHOOO!!!!
But what if they change lane ??
What if BD happens again?

@sfsy1

i meant websites that says BD is legal

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yukino_silvermaine


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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:11 pm

Press F9 in-game. Check rules. Backdooring is legal.
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creator5489


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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:24 pm

In Philippines it's kinda ppl SAYS "BACKDOOR IS ILLEGAL"
and they still believe it in and also it is a League.. Is it still legal?

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War_Wrecker


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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:32 pm

back dooring is !@#$%^&*() but ya its legal.
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razoz


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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:35 pm

Read the rules on F9 in game. There are all rules.
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EniXBlaze


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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:35 pm

Blueserver.com has clear rules about backdooring. If you have a rematch you should inquire carefully them:
Quote:
# Backdooring: The act of attacking enemy buildings in their respective base while allied creeps are not inside the base together with the hero(es).

* Base: Any building opposed to your side of the team, beginning from the third-line towers protecting the barracks to the Frozen Throne or Tree of Life.
* Allied creep(s): Creep(s) generated only by the barracks, and excludes summoned units, i.e. Furion's (Prophet) Forces of Nature, Black Arachnia's (Broodmother) Spawn Spiderlings, Necronomicon's Demon Mages, etc., creep(s) under spell/item effect(s), i.e. Aiustha's (Enchantress) Enchant, Chen's (Holy Knight) Holy Persuasion, Helm of Dominator's effect, etc., image(s), i.e. Azwraith (Phantom Lancer), Slithice (Naga Siren), Terrorblade (Soul Keeper), Manta Style effect, etc., and so on.
* It is not considered as backdoor as long as there are allied creeps in the base, no matter which lane those creeps were generated from.
* Backdooring is allowed IF AND ONLY IF either one of these conditions are fulfilled:
o For game(s) which has equal number of players in each team when game started:
+ The number of players on each team must be the same, e.g. 5v5, 4v4, 3v3.
+ The team of the backdooring player has a lower number of the opposing team, e.g. 4v5, 3v4, 2v3.
o For game(s) which has different number of players in each team when game started:
+ No number-of-players restrictions apply for backdooring, i.e. Any player(s) can choose to backdoor anytime, anywhere regardless the number of remaining players in the game.
* In ANY case, backdooring The Throne/World Tree is not allowed.


Although BD is legal but it's up to the arrangement between your team and their team if BD was really legal in the game. In your case I think your team won perfectly if the enemy team played that poorly. For your information: IHCS is a decent league with many well-known competing team which has extremely strict rules about BD:
Quote:
Backdooring:
- You are not allowed to attack any tower on the map without creepsupport.
- You have to enter the base with creeps but they dont have to be in the same line as you. As soon as creeps enters the base, the complete base is allowed to be destroyed.
- As long as there were creeps in base when you entered, you are allowed to keep attacking even if they die. If you leave the base at this moment you need to have new creeps in the next attack.
- If a tower is denyable (below 10% HP) and is not a base tower, backdooring rules do not apply.

DEFINITIONS :
*Creeps "Enter the base" when they are upslope on their way into the base.
*Creepsupport : The creeps are within 600 Range
-If a players is found guilty of backdooring a lvl 1/2 tower, they will recieve a personal warning
-If a team is found guilty of backdooring a lvl 3 tower/rax, the result will be submitted in favor of the opposing team.


If you/your team/their team hate backdoor, the above rules are so good to be applied in the game.
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