RattleTrap Hero Thread 6.53

RattleTrap Hero Thread 6.53

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:00 pm

getdota.com is updated so new version is in place. It would be nice if people posted their thoughts on this hero even if it were a little early...I will list the spells below


Battery Assault
Basically a different version of cold snap. It stuns a random unit in 300 AOE for good damage(80 at level 4) at .75second intervals for 15 seconds. Very imba in a 1 on 1 situation imo but useless in teamfights.

Power Cog
Sprouts yourself with machines. The two abilities of these machines is magic immunity and damage reduction to 1. so it takes 3 hits to clear one machine no matter how strong the hero is. If they touch the machine they get shocked and mana burnt. It is like a greater bash effect. They slide back so it is nice. You can't shock units on the inside. Edit: didn't say this clearly enough but the cogs trap you and ANY NEARBY UNITS in them. It is double edged sword.

N.B. You can kill your own cogs and your allies can too. Just deny it like you would a creep except it takes one hit from allied.
Missile Flare
Infinite range mediocre AOE damage. Can scout runes. low cd and 50 manacost. IMBA!

Hookshot
Basically a reverse hook, that pulls you towards the unit and stuns them. 3000 range at level 3 (very fast movespeed)

Opinions
My personal opinion is that he is a phenomenal woods hunter and good for picking off runners. Other than that i don't think he's particularly powerful in team fights. walk in place cog and missile spam. He has very low agi gain and his mana is pretty weak for a 4 active spell hero.

IMO skill build is BA/cog/missile/missile/missile/ult/missile/BA/BA/BA/ult/finish cogs and stats. You don't want too much cog levelling too early imo, you disable yourself too long and missile is gotten for early damage and lower cd to spam into your lane/other lanes. Don't know a good item build atm, is new hero. i suggest bottle,some mana item, bkb(so you don't get owned in your cogs), some damage and possibly cuirass later. necrobook could be massively gay on him too.

Alternate build could be max battery and take missile in between for scouting. get battlefury and basi ring. then skadi/sny(whichever you prefer)

Last edited by argggh101 on Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:10 pm; edited 4 times in total

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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:41 pm

this guy is in my opinion totally overpowered. I mean, look at his skill, arent the imba?
a nuke over the whole map with really fast CD?
a ulti like hook WITH 3000 RANGE?
and a trap skill with synergyses perfectly with his ulti?
I bet for the next 2 weeks, everybody instant clicks on his icon in -ap.
it will exactly the same when invoker came back in 6.50.
so can any of you guys post a super counter for him so that i can piss off those people? but please dont say void, troll or bara.
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:51 pm

chen? LOL. you can try manaburn him imo or doom him etc. Just cripple his mana pool/spells and force big fights where he is useless. and yes...i tried out his spells for farming. the missile + battery assault is crazy. you can kill a creepwave in 6 seconds. with normal hits in between of course.

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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:19 pm

o god... lets see. you missle into the woods for sight of creeping heroes, then you hookshot right into him, use power cog and battery assult?
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:20 pm

Just played against him. He got mega kill >_>. Seems like a pretty good hero, and that second spell was extremely irritating. We lost , and he had mega kill : (
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:53 pm

I played this guy in wtf mode i got flare and beyond godlike in 4 min xD

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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:57 pm

Get radiance on him, hook,clog+battery assault, finish off with flare, totally imba combo! =\
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:23 pm

Trying using NA... Stun and manaburn = crippling rattle... Plus the invisible will either help you run or dmg

In my opinion this way too much of an int. hero than a str hero... Cheaper version of tinker perhap?! lol

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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:11 am

not that imba as people say he is. went against one twice and i owned them both times with Lycan lol.

play against him as if you were playing against Pudge, minus the ridiculously damaging spells and instead with some more unique ones. Battery Assault is like Rot except it can deal more or less damage depending on the number of units around you.

hookshot is like meat hook except it puts RattleTrap in more danger and it also stuns.

power cog is kind of like Dismember if you get up close due to it trapping you inside and forcing you to be near RattleTrap.

Missile Flare is a good scouting spell while also being useful for killing low hp enemies. But it deals ridiculously low damage and is hard to time. Large AoE however but it is nothing compared to Sun Strike.


Doesnt need much mana for his spells so he really doesnt any int items. just something like a Linken's Sphere would do. He has a pretty good base damage though but horrible attackspeed with his crummy agi gain. Doesnt really go into any particular role except as a mass disabler in team battles or a jungler.

310 movespeed makes him a pretty fast strength hero with several nukes. IMO he is a good support hero but not one who should go solo. A team player you could say.
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:15 am

my item build - boots of travel , 2 bracers , MoM , HoT , dagger , dagger + BA + PC and then when the victime runs , ult + M super combo

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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:10 am

quick question --->

do you have to aim the hook? or is it like one of those "you cast, you hit" type of spells?
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:18 am

have to aim it
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:22 am

That is a very interesting hero... But just Lycan him and it becomes interesting
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:29 am

@ Azian
You can throw the hook at a target location like pudge, or target a unit and it will go to the unit, i don't know if it will turn if the hero moves but you can target a unit or location.

Hmm i've seen this guy in action and he is killed easily imo...he should be an int type hero more than a str...his abilities should just do a little more dmg and then up the mana cost and make him int...seriously this guy lacks alot...i played lycan and i love lycan and it was easy pwning goblin clockwerk...like dohyun99 mentioned...

a good combo though would be to hook himself at any hero, then throw up the cogs and use battery assault...its a nice combo and can deal tremendous dmg, but only in early game...he is a str hero that plays like an int nuker...4 active spells too btw...all low c/d so they act like nukes...best counter is lycan or omniknight or pudge or rylai or brood....honestly that list goes on and on...

pudge and clockwerk are very similar but pudge still out tanks him...

rylai can stop his channel and then start channeling her ulti...and they are both trapped inside those damned cogs...

brood...just pwns...and locking himself in there with her!?!?

lycan...just pwns...(too bad he'll get nerfed..)

Omniknight...just heal in the cogs...

basically these are all anti-cog heroes...just made 2 of his skills pathetically hopeless...and that hook doesn't escape so now he is stuck with a 200 dmg nuke...he needs buffs...
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:21 am

well i thought he was ridiculously imba until i realized something. the only reason he is the FoTM is because no one knows how he works or what to expect. I had to lane against an AM and it was just brutal. eggh....

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