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elgato


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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:24 pm

Bishounen2k8 wrote:
@elgato

"so noobs look here and learn something"

wow! your really good eh? .

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Viper is one of the best 1v1 hero just because he can harass you to death even without using viper strike, . .

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never said that, but i think logical Wink

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i bet magina can pwn viper after some lvls
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Bishounen2k8


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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:15 pm

@elgato

logical?

cocky much? . .

(~_~)

@topic


Viper can still own magina after some levels, .

Go for aspd and agi boosting items and when magina blinks near Viper just activate Viper Strike right away and frenzy,
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KimJohannaST


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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:18 am

ulfsaar vs. meepo...what a shame i just experienced loosing as ulfsaar.earthshock and alt so useless!do you think ulfsaar can stand a chance if he buys radiance?or is it downright unlucky for ulfsaar if he goes against meepo in a one on one?
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kurtbean


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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:45 am

@kim

1v1 against meepo? hmm.. lvl 6 onwards meepo will out level ursa especially if meepo user is a good last hitter. meepos move i like this: bind move in, whack, bind(poof), this is tricky tho. he must be good in microing, when he sees 1 meepo is going to die he just cast bind then run while the other is raping him. nweiz. ursa with vlads/high HP late game will ignore meepos attack damage so what happend actualy?
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KimJohannaST


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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:19 am

i got 1.vanguard instead of vlads(oopsie there),2.BoT 3.HoT...was on my way to SnY but I lost interest already when nothing worked against him.i didn't quit though because i promised him i wouldn't no matter what.should've gotten radiance instead of HoT too...he was pretty much underdog early game but when he started having babies thats when my troubles began.i'm not so oriented with meepo in the first place.i think he did use that bind and whack.he didn't separate any of his babies from him though.i didn't stand a chance with the bind thingy with incredible cast range.by the time i earthshock ,all of him have already whacked away half of my hp.alt didn't work either because all of them have same hp after the earthshock.i thought ulfsaar was good for one on one because i owned a few 1on1s with him but definitely not this one!what do you think?
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kurtbean


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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:36 am

did i heard SnY?? if its for maim, it doesnt stack with fury swipe. 1v1 you can get vlads already b4 the game starts. defintely the problem is lifesteal (para sobrang kunat mo pag may vlads)geostrike will eat your HP away. (laban ulit kau try mo vlads tingnan mo galing nya.) lol!
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KEJO_NACHO


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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:22 am

in earlier game pudge can kill magina... mid-late things goes harder depending on magina's build and skills... late magina simply smashes pudge...



now asking about the guy in late game... Drow, Void, Troll, phantom lancer, mortred,.... anyong has a specific edge, considering standard iten builds?

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Boots-chan


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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 4:41 am

Pudge vs Magina
Pudge just dies. Pudge cannot kill AM early on (because of Blink), and after AM farms up, gg Pudge.

And for the other one, if it's just 1v1, then probably Troll because he has permabash and blind.
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KimJohannaST


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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 5:23 am

@kurt
Vlads then.and i get Butterfly instead of SnY...so goal items are Vlads,BoS,Radiance,Butterfly...hopefully i get to kill one before half of my HP is whacked away then leave the real one vulnerable yes?sounds easy.hehe...so here's a scene:Meepos bind me from his safe distance(not much i can do about that).within that 2second bind i am helpless as they rush at me with geostrike.if vlads can sustain me more than enough through that 2 second bind,i earthshock him(enrage and overpower already on) and kill one of them without trying to spot the original one.by this time i am already dead.ahaha
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kurtbean


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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:52 am

@kim
lol! no radiance and butterfly! just pump up your HP. get Bot, Hot, Hot, Hot, Hot........ VLADS! ofc Vanguard early.
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:15 am

Can there be any more logical build for Ursa??

They say a build for Ursa is like this:

Lothar's/Blink Dagger
Vanguard
BoT
Vladmir's Offering
HoT
HoT

Well...

Could there be any more helpful build??

Like perhaps adding MKB or any dmg items??

Well please answer...

Also, going to try to make a guide on him...
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SWORDSMAN69


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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:35 pm

hmm admiral vs axe ?
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[piG]Jenan


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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:51 pm

SWORDSMAN69 wrote:
hmm admiral vs axe ?

i'll go for admiral.
since he got huge str gain.
then axe just could kill admiral due to he's skills.
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:02 pm

Dark_3 wrote:
Can there be any more logical build for Ursa??

They say a build for Ursa is like this:

Lothar's/Blink Dagger
Vanguard
BoT
Vladmir's Offering
HoT
HoT

Well...

Could there be any more helpful build??

Like perhaps adding MKB or any dmg items??

Well please answer...

Also, going to try to make a guide on him...


Phase is better on him since it can help him chase. Well if you don't like massing hearts you can try Radiance, It's the only damage item worth getting on Ursa.

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elgato


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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:02 pm

KimJohannaST wrote:
@kurt
Vlads then.and i get Butterfly instead of SnY...so goal items are Vlads,BoS,Radiance,Butterfly...hopefully i get to kill one before half of my HP is whacked away then leave the real one vulnerable yes?sounds easy.hehe...so here's a scene:Meepos bind me from his safe distance(not much i can do about that).within that 2second bind i am helpless as they rush at me with geostrike.if vlads can sustain me more than enough through that 2 second bind,i earthshock him(enrage and overpower already on) and kill one of them without trying to spot the original one.by this time i am already dead.ahaha


fgs, for gods sake whats with the ppl today, what about axe? he could mby kill meepo 1v1?, just get 2 vanguards, mby a blade mail and lot of HP and armor, at early-mid game helix will be enough to kick those dwarfs
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