Who do you think is the best initiator in team clashes?

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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:02 pm

tide dagger ulti.
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:04 pm

ES ftw !!!

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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:07 pm

akasha is not an initiator
good initiators: leoric sven vengeful
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:08 pm



akasha's Sonic wave defintely is great for initiating.

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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:23 pm

its a good nuke. Although its not a good disabler. Tide ulti is bigger and a disabler with about the same amount of damage. Qop doesnt do this. She only nukes. She's ok as a finisher but not as a starter. Es is not that good as he needs creeps. Its unreliable but tides is way better. XD.
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:28 pm

im voting for enigma... wait... its not there?! *pours magma at topic*

whew... now, i'm voting for rooftrelle--- not there either?!?!?! *kills topic maker*

just kidding. I wont vote unless enigma's there :P midnight pulse + BH just owns all xD
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:28 pm

magnus and tide.
or magnus and nevermor.
^_^
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:45 pm



who says initiator has to be disabler. Even zeus ulti can be a great initiator.

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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:14 am

you say initiate but really you are going for "cast spells to disable their team for 4-6 seconds"

Venge is the best initiator as you can swap out one of their heroes then proceed to own them, more importantly this can be don from the shadows.

now if you have say...

Troll
Keeper of the Light
Chen
Venge
BB

you have (an all sentinel) IMBA 5.
initiate by swapping in VS as chens teleporter is about to go off. then kotl activates ultimate and teleports her back.
bb and troll run in blazing with chen and kotl for support, vs arrives for an additional damage boost and a stun.

can we assume that nobody survives this?
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:17 am

so basicly they need bot or lik a tp to tp back to they ultimate of kotl. well thats cool. sadly this cant be done as kotls ulti has changed... or do u mean the current 1. i dunno im confused but as long as it works then go for it. um i wouldnt have bb maybe a different tank lik treant so he can invise vs or somthin or rk or ursa or somthin u no. just coz bb is sorta nurfed and dyin of nurfstick disease. XD.
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:39 pm

true the nerf stick does suck, oh well BM it is for the awesome hacks on the ultimate.
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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:33 am

Well...i dun think lion or QoP would be an initiator....

an initiator would be a hero who would

1:help disable the enemy team to get an advantage or
2:Able to withstand focus firing since u're the first to went into battle

QoP or Lion cant withstand both...Yes sonic wave can help ur team get into very good advantage but if she starts the battle first,she would get focused fire n die..she should be like the secondary initiator which cast sonic wave after a hero like tide or raigor to cripple the team wif their ultis

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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:54 am

venomancer and void should be on the list.. centaur, sladar, and meepo is a good initiator too
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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 7:55 am

es is better since he can use a whole barrage of aoe stun skills
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Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:29 am

CHICKEN WITH DAGON!

Seriously though, abaddon is a great initiator and an arguement could be made for rikimaru as well.

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