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Questions Tht Get Me Fustrated!

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:09 am

Techies: How much damage does Suicide with magic resistance?
Geomancer: Item build and killing skills?
Manta:Does feedback overide corruption?

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Re: Questions Tht Get Me Fustrated!

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:16 am

re-kill wrote:
Techies: How much damage does Suicide with magic resistance?
Geomancer: Item build and killing skills?


1. Not sure about magic resictance or is it armor reduct, but one big thing that matters, is Range.

Ie. Your chasing some1, and barely catch him up, he wont take the whole dmg, when ie rhasta schakles and then u do it on him, it will hit 100 %...


2. Mekanism, Vlads, Treads (str) , Assault cuirass.
Killing, just net one, attack, use net again, attack and you can also poof to make dmg.
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:24 am

Techies:
Suicide is reduced by both armor and magic resistance (diminishingly stacks)
So for example a hero has 25% magic resistance and 40% damage reduction from armor. It will reduce Suicide by
[40%*(100-25)%] + 25%
[40%*75%] + 25%
30% + 25% = 55%

So if Suicide deals 1000 damage, the target will only take 450 damage.

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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:39 pm

(Original Damage - Magical Damage Block - Physical Damage Block) * (1 - Spell Resistance) * (1 - Armor Reduction)

Same values as above is:

(1000)*(1-0.25)*(1-0.25) = 562.5 = 43.75% reduction.

AKA, it stacks really weirdly and its best to just pretend Suicide does 500 damage less or something.

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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:56 pm

damn it, no wonder i cant kill my bloody allies, i thought techies sucide is only reduced by magic reduction!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:06 pm

re-kill wrote:
damn it, no wonder i cant kill my bloody allies, i thought techies sucide is only reduced by magic reduction!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Dude....you CANT kill allies with suicide.....
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:24 am

aaahahaha XD
If u want to piss off ur allies just get Tiny, Bane Elemental, Venge etc.

Anyway; to kill with meepo: catch ur enemy/-ies with nets, run up to him/them, poof with all meepos and then finish him/them.

Corruption overrides if it is gotten after u get Manta/diffusal.

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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:05 am

the suicide is reduce by everything basically. armor and magic. too not make it too painful.
meepo. the regular build pt,vlad,mech,assualt,styggian, and whatever else. to get a kill. simple. earthbind double poof=kill or almost dead.
corruption overides everything.
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:53 am

horur wrote:
aaahahaha XD
If u want to piss off ur allies just get Tiny, Bane Elemental, Venge etc.

Anyway; to kill with meepo: catch ur enemy/-ies with nets, run up to him/them, poof with all meepos and then finish him/them.

Corruption overrides if it is gotten after u get Manta/diffusal.

I find it easier to piss allies off with Pudge or BS. Its pretty easy to deny allies with Bloodrage and with pudge hook your allies into demise lol.
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:01 pm

yeah corruption overrides with everything but i think you get the other orb effect before corruption
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:12 pm

1. Reduced by armor and magic resistance. Do NOT use against Magina, Viper, and Pudge with a HoD and some kind of armor.

2. Net, Poof one Meepo, Net, Poof another Meepo, Net, Poof another Meepo, Net, Poof another Meepo. Lot of micromanaging but it's the most effective way to make sure the hero gets all the damage. Most people Net and Poof all of their Meepos at the same time, missing at least half of the damage. But really, if you have all Meepos attacking the hero, they're slowed by 80%, nobody is going to run -_-

3. Depends on what item slot the items are in. Corruption will override feedback if Desolator is in slot 1 but feedback will override corruption if Manta is in slot 1.
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