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luciusxx


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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:51 am

Omg, I've been going about this the wrong way, then xD
I usually play bait and have everyone come out of no where to counter gank.

Or I initiate and use shiva's.


Bloodstone works better? o.0
Because I find that the Puck I play has certain mana issues, even with Bottle and a flying courier to rune-whore + fountain refill.
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MiniGaY


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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:21 am

KimJohannaST wrote:
^ unconventional and creative but as for me I won't risk such and put first the conventional HoD,treads or lothars.


and i don't know if I'm putting this in the right thread but are there any new leviathan guides?
the ones in the strategies are like from 2006 and I also found one of the two quite unconvincing...leviathan with refresher orb.

i've decided to start playing as tank a bit more than just support or ks as carry or int.

i don't have the time and convenience to read a whole guide so can i just have a rundown on skill build and item build?

from what I know he should get vanguard/HoT,treads,cuirass in order.and also what do you think if I get BkB on him before lvl 15? would it be far better than a refresher orb?


i personally prefer PB + stout with perseverance then i get blink dagger and go for BF refesher can be good ! at lvl 16 10sec disable is quite imba no ? put an HoT in and GG
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pomlaos


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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:59 am

I'm kinda lost. What hero are we dicussing?
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MTisgreat


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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:25 am

can someone telll me fi this is an ok build:)

linkens so i can be a annoying invincible -bleep-
nulis and magic wand are optional
after linkens i go desolator
and at last AC

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MTisgreat


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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:26 am

i forgot to tell that its dazzle:D and maybe some of the minus armor are to waste but its good f u play against a roof or a DK or other high armro stuff
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KimJohannaST


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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 1:18 pm

@ Minigay

Waiting 3 mins or so to do ravage again does sound a drag but the cost of refresher seemed better to have gone to aspd or HP items if it were to compensate for such.2 of his skills are passives too.
Besides BkB being a play safe item for me nowadays,everyone here tends to buy it if game lasts an hour or more.how about it for a compensation instead of refresher?
If his ravage is on cooldown and a clash is inevitable,BkB is mostly available.

Sorry to Dazzle topic.I haven't really experienced using him.

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DaMan2000


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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 1:41 pm

@MT
Dazzle is support hero, so get support item on him. Cheap and effective items like Mek, Pipe are very good. Dazzle is the least item-reliant hero in the game, so you dont need to farm to play him well.
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MTisgreat


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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:17 pm

[quote="DaMan2000"]@MT
Dazzle is support hero, so get support item on him. Cheap and effective items like Mek, Pipe are very good. Dazzle is the least item-reliant hero in the game, so you dont need to farm to play him well.[/quote]


thanks for your reply daman:) dazzle is primarely support but he can be a strong offensive caster or even ganker if used right. but yeah gotta try a support build. he also have an spammable heal so i dont feel like he needs a mek. can u suggest a full item buid for him?

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MTisgreat


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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:17 pm

[quote="DaMan2000"]@MT
Dazzle is support hero, so get support item on him. Cheap and effective items like Mek, Pipe are very good. Dazzle is the least item-reliant hero in the game, so you dont need to farm to play him well.[/quote]


thanks for your reply daman:) dazzle is primarely support but he can be a strong offensive caster or even ganker if used right. but yeah gotta try a support build. he also have an spammable heal so i dont feel like he needs a mek. can u suggest a full item buid for him?

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topika007


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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:20 pm

I was redirected here for posting a "lame" topic.
Is Vanguard necessary on Lanaya?
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MiniGaY


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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:26 pm

KimJohannaST wrote:
@ Minigay

Waiting 3 mins or so to do ravage again does sound a drag but the cost of refresher seemed better to have gone to aspd or HP items if it were to compensate for such.2 of his skills are passives too.
Besides BkB being a play safe item for me nowadays,everyone here tends to buy it if game lasts an hour or more.how about it for a compensation instead of refresher?
If his ravage is on cooldown and a clash is inevitable,BkB is mostly available.

Sorry to Dazzle topic.I haven't really experienced using him.


levi has enough HP naturally and don't need a lot more i said refresher has a luxury item usually i get:

PB
dagger
BF
2xbracers
bottle

an the game ends if i last longer i go refresher or sheepstick then HoT and finally AC but this is situational if there's a lot of carry go sheepstick if there's too much nuker go Hot and if there's too much AoE go refresher

edit:

@topika: no, vanguard is useless on lanaya you already have a slow , a hide (meld) and 8 dodge for spell/hits isnt it efficient enough ? PMS is a good choice some minor survability plus some dps for easy early last hit =) i usually go :

PB
PMS
2xbracers
stygian

then GG (if not go butterfly HoT AC buriza)
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Ramirox


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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:38 pm

Lanaya doesnt need vanguard...
just get desolator and you are set (a blink dagger would be good to set up your meld and chase). But if you need HP then get 2 bracers instead of 2 wraiths..
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tiberiumlord


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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 4:37 pm

What would you build for a Lich? I want to focus on a support/gank build.
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MiniGaY


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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:45 pm

tiberiumlord wrote:
What would you build for a Lich? I want to focus on a support/gank build.


the usual league build is rushing meka !

IMO :

BoT or PB
1null
1bracer
meka
hex
aghanim or shiva

and be sure to lane with the carry and babysit him
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LeGenD K!LLer!!!


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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:46 pm

tiberiumlord wrote:
What would you build for a Lich? I want to focus on a support/gank build.


Mek is good, since (like ezalor) he NEVER runs out of mana.

Pipe is also good, I mean +armor AND +magic barrier? IMBAsauce support.

Hex for lategame disable (the mana bonus is unnecessary though...)

Skadi if you just loooooooove being all frosty on n00bz...
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