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sloonzz

Mega Kill Posts: 531 Joined: 27 Sep 2008 12383 gold

Item build and best orb for Gondar



I've been using SnY for Gondar for a long time now, and I realized that it isn't good for him, simply because:
* He already have sufficient chasing skills because of track
* Maim doesn't always trigger since he's only chasing
* It's costly but not worth it. (5K)

I've been thinking if MoM is good for him so that he can activate it to proc crits alot and to chase more also, the lifesteal is very useful so that when he crits, he will gain more HP. Also, very cheap. (2K)

Vlads IMO, is not good for him, because:
* Gondar is not a support hero.
* Gondar doesn't need mana regen to combo enemies.
* Gondar is seen while windwalking because the creeps will gain the bonuses from it.

Please comment on what is the best orb for Gondar and if so, what item build for that orb.

Suggestions are open.
Thanks. Cool
-sloonzz

P.S. I already used the search forum and seen 0 results asking an item build and orb for Gondar.
So please feel free to pwn me with links.
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irson

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try Desolator
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dare18

Beyond Godlike Posts: 4345 Joined: 06 Feb 2009 Warnings : 1 69411 gold



mmm...

PT
Butte
MKB
Deso(if u want to)
AC...lol...
Heart or linken...

well...situational...
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dare18

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sry for double post...

post your Q right here...

http://www.dotastrategy.com/forum/ftopic19675.html
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ogre-magi

Godlike Posts: 1394 Joined: 01 May 2008 38018 gold



Here are my opinion on good orbs for gondar:
Desolator - High dps increase; +60 damage is A LOT! and not to mention the armor reduction. Vlads is not an orb, so if you get deso get vlads too.
Manta - Very good, lots of damage. +300 hp. Illusions mana burn. Helps pushing.
Skadi - 100% slow is great and it beefs your hp a bit. Bad thing is that its hard to farm.
Satanic - Great orb, especially in late game where you'll be doing massive damage.

I don't like SnY since it only gives average bonuses and you have enough ms from track. It can be good though.
MoM is not necessary since the bonus damage you take is too much, but the IAS is good. MS not needed.
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sloonzz

Mega Kill Posts: 531 Joined: 27 Sep 2008 12383 gold



But I think it won't be recognized if I post it there so....

-EDIT-
Is it also necessary for Gondar to get Bfury to help in farming since he's a carry?
Also, I just posted Vlads there because I think it sucks on Gondar because of my own reasons.
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dare18

Beyond Godlike Posts: 4345 Joined: 06 Feb 2009 Warnings : 1 69411 gold



oh...ok then...

PT
Vlad
Deso or manta
if u get manta...get Skadi
AC
Butte
MKB
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Flodian

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Here is my list.

Satanic - I personally don't like it, since you don't need that much str for gondar. You are suppose to kill people fast and efficiently. If you need that much HP to tank around, your not a very good assassin. ^_^

Skadi - Takes WAY too long to farm up.. not worth it.

Maelstrom - Don't like this item on him...

Deso- Now here is a good item, it gives you everything you need. With this you can kill people fast and book it out of there fast. Remember offense is the best defense. They can't hurt you if they are dead. ^_^

Manta - It's not a bad orb, but personally I don't think it adds enough damage for us. The slow from diffusal is nice and all but... I still don't think it gives you enough benefits.

SnY - This is not a bad orb, it gives you MS combined with your ulti you will be running around pretty fast. And it gives just enough Str for you to stay alive, and good agi bonuses. Maim is a good orb to have. Not only is the movement speed reduction good, but the attack speed reduction is just as valuable.
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sloonzz

Mega Kill Posts: 531 Joined: 27 Sep 2008 12383 gold



Please also add the item build for the said orb.
And I think that Deso is pretty good for him.
Item build for Gondar with Deso pls.
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MeNoHaxor

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deso is prolly the best item on gondar...... gives u dmg and armor reduction, which is great to finish off heroes.

sny isnt that bad.....extra ms with track will prolly get u running at 522~ish....and maim is good for slow. you will also get extra hp for surviving and agi for dps.
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dare18

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dare18 wrote:
oh...ok then...

PT
Vlad
Deso or manta
if u get manta...get Skadi
AC
Butte
MKB



zzz...i did....
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sloonzz

Mega Kill Posts: 531 Joined: 27 Sep 2008 12383 gold



Oh sorry, didn't notice that....
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Ducttapefiend

First Blood Posts: 18 Joined: 07 Feb 2008 672 gold



I also go Deso on Gondar. He needs the dmg, and later in the game if you have the luxury money to farm up an AC, the armor only stacks further. Smile

Also, though the full S&Y is kind of a waste of money, situationally I will get just a yasha.
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Last time i checked creeps don't get auras while your invisible so I think a good build is treads, vlads, MKB, deso, then after that i sometimes get yasha for the bonus AS and MS. After that i get either HoT guinsoo or AC.

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