Does 2 vanguard or 2 stout shield stack?

Does 2 vanguard or 2 stout shield stack?

Posted on Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:37 pm

Today i was playing lancer with 2 vanguard and suddenly everyone called me a noob and said it doesnt stack as far as i know it does stack ....... so im here to ask if 2 stout sheild or 2 vanguard stack?

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Posted on Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:39 pm

well, you could use search tool, or just wait for someone who isnt lazy ( as im now ) to pwn you.. like KingV.

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Btw, I would say same thing, but not because 2 vangs doesnt stack, but because you got these items in PL
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Posted on Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:40 pm

If you have more than one damage block(Hard Skin) item, they are individually checked in reverse order of acquisition, and only one can trigger.

That is, if you bought a Stout, then a Vanguard, the Vanguard is checked first, then the Stout. If the Vanguard's block succeeds, then the Stout will not be checked anymore. So get a stout first then vanguard. xD


Sample cases:
1 Stout Shield
40% chance to take 30 less damage
60% chance to take normal damage

2 Stout Shields
64% chance to take 30 less damage
36% chance to take normal damage
*Unlike other stacking items, you do not get a chance for a double effect, since only one source will ever trigger.

2 Vanguards
87.75% chance to take 35 less damage
12.25% chance to take normal damage

1 Stout Shield then 1 Vanguard
65% chance to take 35 less damage
14% chance to take 30 less damage
21% chance to take normal damage

1 Vanguard then 1 Stout Shield
40% chance to take 30 less damage
39% chance to take 35 less damage
21% chance to take normal damage

So basically
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Posted on Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:43 pm

ahhh im confuse ..... flodian ..... im asking if 2 vanguard 65% + 65% to block 40 damage so does it permanly reduce the damage i recived by 40?

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Posted on Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:46 pm

i have a clan match push plz reply

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Posted on Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:46 pm

venom, read his board, 2 vanguard means 87.75% to block 35 damage...

If you have 2 items like this, the system will check one, if it fails, it will check other, BUT if it works, it wont check the other one..

Wich means higher chance, but not permanentely, and you cant doubleblock the same hit
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Posted on Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:50 pm



read this...



1 vanguard: 65% chance
2 vangs: 65% block chance, then 65% of the remaining 35% (22.75) = 87.75 to block 35 dmg, no 130% chance :<
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Posted on Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:52 pm

ok thx dantus evil monkey avatar guy and flodian ... flodian do u like hei su hui mei mei ?

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Posted on Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:54 pm


What is hei su hui mei mei? o.0 I'm mando...maybe just type out the characters. xD
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Posted on Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:01 pm

To work it out it's simple. (Vang and stout work the same way)

40% chance to block
60% chance not to block

40% of the remianing 60% = 24

Therefore % chance to block = 40 +24 = 64% chance

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Posted on Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:06 pm

They called you noob because you bought them on PL.

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Posted on Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:14 pm

i think it a good idea that vanguard on PL ........ any hero can have vanguard does that make him a noob?

i had 2 vanguard and killed 12 hero and died 4 time

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Posted on Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:15 pm

Only the percentages stack (diminishingly), not the damage reduction

So if you have a vanguard(Say 40 damage block 60%) and another one, it wont be 36% of 80 damage block, it would be 84% of 40 damage block.
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Posted on Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:37 pm

actually, i would also call someone a noob if he makes 2 vanguards on phantom lancer.
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Posted on Wed Apr 15, 2009 12:11 am

answered. lock.
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