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Finnaker


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About Bashers!

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:56 pm

Is there any way to not be stunned while someone is hitting you with bashers?
Because i think they are TOO POWERFULL...
Troll Warlord or Faceless Void can kill almost EVERYONE with double bashers and some increased atk speed. !

If there is anyway to cancel out bash? If... please tell me.
I think its very covardly to get 2xbashers with some heroes.

Thats all from me.

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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:08 pm

No way.That's called tactics!And u should know how to defence,that's all.
There is nothing covardly bout that.
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:35 am

Not all heroes can perma-bash.

And perma-bash ain't useful in team battles.
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Paydenator


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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:47 am

Anything with evasion could stop perma bash. But its better to travel in two's when there is one perma basher running around so while he's bashing one, the other can smash him.

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jake-the-mus


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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:09 am

heheheh read my strats ay? Both on Troll and Faceless.....

No theres no way to counter P-Bash in a 1-on-1 situation.

>_<

How very "Cowardly" of me.
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:49 pm

Tsk,,tsk,,...(coward!!!)


well... yes there is no way to stop bash...but you can escape it before hitting you ... with blinks... well buy butterfly.. with butterfly you can evade attacks....
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donatboy


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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:52 pm

get mjolnir, static field yourself and let his permabash begin, he will get killed before you do
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Finnaker


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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:33 pm

Ok )IcY(*)Qman(, i admit that i havnt got any tactics against e perma-bash but im still learning.
Im gonna try both mjolnir and butterfly and see if i can resist a perma-bash.

As in jake-the-mus's strategy there is little you can do when facing those 2 with your built.

Post some more tactics against a perma-bash! Ty

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Rairu


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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:12 am

You should try to outbash them if its 1 on 1 game like if they use magina then use another permabasher like troll or void. and if its a team game if you see the permabasher hero then call your team for a gank which will you give you time to push and destroy they enemy towers and barracks you may lose a hero but its worth giving you time away from the permabasher
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JDZer0ski11z


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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:14 am

Hehe...permabashers are tough, but they aren't unstoppable (Unless they made about 6 kills...). If you're taking on a permabasher, gang up on him so that you got support if you're stunned.

My counter to bashers? Evasion with the Butterfly and Blade Mail. One time I was Jah'Rakal fighting against Bradwarden 1 on 1. He had Blade Mail on and I had 2 bashers as well as a Manta Style (Testing...). I did my special tactic (Ranged Images, me the melee), and I permabashed Centaur like crazy. He couldn't even move! So i just bashed away and you know who won?....

Bradwarden! I was like wtf? I died by return and blademail over permabash? Haha, great laugh. Basically all i can say is if you're going against a basher, get someone who can take a lot of hits, specifically strength types.
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J-Unit


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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 6:47 am

Use centaur warchief with alot of blademails. his return and all that will kill faceless.

Tiny's 3rd skill would stun him back on a 24% chance. so u could still beat him.

PS: all these are from experience of me being owned by these 2 heroes
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 7:01 am

2 anti-melee:
Brad n Tiny

Give Brad/Tiny theze for "bash urself" build:
*No need for boots if this is a 1v1 situation.
2-3x Blade Mail
Mjollnir(cast it on youself before fighting)
1-2x Heart of Tarrasque
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ReSpEcT


First Blood Posts: 10 Joined: 23 Oct 2006 2481 gold

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:50 pm

hI,

i donnt think perma-bash are that scary against any decent team.

For a grand toatl of 1610 + 150 + 1430 = 3190 dollars

The basher Gives:
+30 Damage
+3 Str
Passive: Bash
15% Chance (10% for Ranged), 1.1 Second Stun
+25 Bonus Damage on Bash

For the same amount of cash + 600 dollars, u get +60 damage, thats 100% increment in damage. And i do NOT think u can seriously expect ur bash to occur in a short duration of time(i.e faceless void's ulti).

And as i said, against any decent team, if u're a perma basher , they wont ever travel alone, and in theory, u'll take 100% more time to finish off a hero - waste of time .

But then again, if u're in some pub, perma bash is always fun to have, when u "pick" heroes off 1 v 1.

Basher , along with dagon , is one of the worst items in the game. the only heroes i would actually consider dagon on are tinker and N.A .

Anyway, this basher craze has to stop=X

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aboardboy


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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:37 pm

Use pudge or axe ...get blademails and radiance and butterfly ...pudge rot =100damageper second ..plus radiance 140 damage plus 2 blademails....WTF lol alot of damage ...for axe he just can keep spinning lol and with blademails.....ownage and radiance
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:21 pm

Try using Anub'arak. Get three Blade Mails, Satanic, Power Treads, and Buriza-do Kyanon. 100% Melee damage return for the win!!!!
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