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Gaucma

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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:34 pm

KimJohannaST wrote:
@ VSG
how is it a kill steal?

Scenario:

It was strygwyr and me (Balanar)at bottom lane around mid game.

I went to a neutral creeping at a nearby clump of trees and DK believes its just Strygwyr there.

Strygwyr goes for DK and DK doesn't retreat because they were pretty much in league with their hps.

All the while I was walking towards them unseen.
And when DK decides to make a run for it and was obviously going to escape from Strygwyr,I cast void on him from behind the trees. Laughing

So he was getting away. Which means Strygwyr (although a bad example... seeing as he can chase fairly well) wasn't going to get the kill. You can't steal something that's not there.
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Mentalcowman

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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:36 pm

just try let the carry get it unless your almost guarenteed to win because your that far ahead or take the kill if you know your the only one with the mana/range/chasing ability to get it.
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dare18

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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:43 pm

carry....
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squints_the_azn

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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:14 pm

If your zeus lol. I think Ksing is important if the person WILL get away or if you are the carry and you need some cash/exp.

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SNO0K1E

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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:18 pm

if your team is killing and carry ks to kill = teamkill

if your standing there watching yur carry kill and ONLY hit last hit = ks = no = noob. e.g LION ULT when yur not even in fight.
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KimJohannaST

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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:12 am

@ Gaucma

Something was there.
You know what was there?
I didn't help "predamage" DK regardless of whether he got away or not because my definition of KS is getting the kill when I don't really deserve it.

You may say its a teamkill but if you read again I wasn't exactly in the position to say it was a teamkill.
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varunshenoyg

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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:26 am

Hey why wasnt BS able to chase DK anyway?? He didnt have the +44% MS + vision?
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Gaucma

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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:33 am

varunshenoyg wrote:
Hey why wasnt BS able to chase DK anyway?? He didnt have the +44% MS + vision?

Yeah, but he said he was getting away so I figured it meant he couldn't chase him. If he could that's a whole different story.

KimJohannaST wrote:
@ Gaucma

Something was there.
You know what was there?
I didn't help "predamage" DK regardless of whether he got away or not because my definition of KS is getting the kill when I don't really deserve it.

You may say its a teamkill but if you read again I wasn't exactly in the position to say it was a teamkill.

So you'd rather have a dk get away? I was trying to point out that kill stealing is STEALING the KILL. If BS couldn't kill him by himself then he wasn't stealing anything. Obviously it would have been better if the other person had actually helped in the kill the whole time. Obviously.
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KimJohannaST

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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:36 am

@ vsg
DK was running to a tower of theirs and Strygwyr's hp didn't make him feel he could risk his own death for the chance of pawning DK.

I was behind a patch of trees just across the lane where the tower was.
I had green hp bar and the tower couldn't sense me either.

@ Gaucma

Yes Strygwyr couldn't get DK.
But I never said I'd rather let him get away either.
And then you said it yourself that it was better if I had helped.
Strygwyrr couldn't kill DK by himself but I could have helped him.
I could have helped but I didn't and that makes it a KS.

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varunshenoyg

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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:44 am

Hmmm I have to agree with Gaucma and defend my earlier statement that this was not a true KS (In the sense that BS gave up his right to have the kill), you need to KS more to become a true Sith, young Kim Laughing

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tiberiumlord

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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:45 am

Let carries kill.

But I grant myself the right to ks whenever I want if I'm a carry myself, Axe, or a dude with an uber nuke/Dagon.
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KimJohannaST

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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:46 am

He didn't give up his right actually.ahehehe

He even mumbled about something about me being freeloader and "gay" LOLZ
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varunshenoyg

Godlike Posts: 2364 Joined: 16 Dec 2007 60925 gold

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:34 am

Welcome then to the dark side, my young apprentice Alien

Btw isnt this thread long resolved?
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