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DaMan2000


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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:06 am

He is the best initiator in the game. He sets up teammates like Panda, Lina so well for a team kill, and his gank potential is amazing
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migrees


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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:59 am

The thing is TC can achieve that kind of damage very easily and relatively early in the game. Has good last hitting = farm well. MoM/bfury with +300 damage (heroes+creeps) anybody? And super stun? And slow?

TC can be a game wrecker if allowed to. Not saying that he will beat mortred late game Laughing. But certainly worth a mention as a carry as much as rooftrellen or panda even.
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:04 am

What I love about TC is the fact that his effectiveness does not deterioate towards late game. Percentage based skills rule, also his super long disable is the perfect weapon to use, when your group isn't on que, gives you plenty of time to regroup.
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bobbob247


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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:20 am

Refresher is IMO the way to go. It is mana intensive, but it can devastate the other team if they lose 70% of their max HP outright. Even if it misses, the other team has had to move, not attack, for at least 3 seconds.

And I'm done with my DPS guide for now, just going to add links now....

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DaMan2000


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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:59 am

Battlefury would negate the effectiveness of your knock-out. You wanna wake only one hero up at a time, not the whole team.
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Greater Bash


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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:53 pm

DaMan2000 wrote:
Make my Christmas GB!


I will make sure that we participate together! Cool
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DaMan2000


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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:12 pm

Good luck to you! and Merry Christmas Smile
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Greater Bash


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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:20 pm

Did you think about me when making the guide?

"Greater Bash" hint hint.
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DaMan2000


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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:17 pm

What's Greater Bash? Wink
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terrn300


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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:52 pm

DaMan2000 wrote:
Battlefury would negate the effectiveness of your knock-out. You wanna wake only one hero up at a time, not the whole team.


So the best thing to do is to, use that stomp thingy, wait for that ultimate to happen to ensure they stay.

I guess you can also use other AoE stuff like Blackhole, Freezing field and stuff after he used his ulti.

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DaMan2000


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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:59 pm

People always dream of epic team kills with overhelming AOE skills, but they never happen. You need to improvise a counter in case your original plan dont work. That's why I'm a little ify about refresher. Its hit or miss. Your opponent might completely avoid your stomp and escape completely.
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:06 pm

I've used Guinsoo and Refresher for TC ever since he came out.
In Pubs, it has about a 80% chance of landing the double Ult.
In ClanWars, I would say it had a similar rate of success (60ish).
The 2nd one obviously relies on the 1st one making contact..but I found when a teammate used Tree or Tidehunter it would make team killing so easy.
I know this is one of those "AoE Scenarios" that you have mentioned, but it is very realistic/easy to land. As you cast your 1st ult, have Tide stroll in and Ravage, then drop the 2nd Earth Splitter, and then top it off with everyone picking off their designated biatch.
This is all based on my own personal experience. So it may vary from other. Flame Away! XD

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tiberiumlord


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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:25 pm

Flames? Help! I'm on fire!

@TC guide

I don't really agree with the thing about double ult. It may seem like a godly move to double ult, but it's a lot harder to pull off than you think. (By the first ult, people will most likely have recovered enough to keep you from ulting again) One misfire of this combo and it's a long wait before you can try it again.

@GB's guide

Hmm... greater bash? XD (Of course I know!)
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terrn300


Monster Kill Posts: 210 Joined: 10 Jan 2008 6374 gold

Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:43 am

DaMan your statement is very true, like when people use aleria's powershot, they tend to move out of the way or jakiro's ultimate.

TC is better used when the skills are in the fog like you cast the figure in the fog next to them. If they find out hes using his AoEs you're screwed, if they don't know, then you are good.

All about timeing and placement for AoE
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Ghost


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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:37 am

double ulti is all about timing: stun, ulti, smal pause, stun, ulti.
godly if pulled off.
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