Do you think that Vladmir`s Offering is useless?

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Posted on Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:35 pm

Yup, I agree with Crash and Burn's post. Besides his points, Vlads is also beneficial for heroes with melee summons. Broodmom is the prime example of this. It is also considerable for Furion, Syllabear and Chen.

Heroes with natural orbs such as Ursa, Anti-mage and Broodmom can all benefit from the lifesteal.

Bottom Line: Vlads Rocks.
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Posted on Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:35 pm

Vladimir's offering is not useless, it is very essential to all melee heroes with orb effect that needs lifesteal. It made melee carry heroes more powerfull.. and damn!!!! 16% lifesteal can help!


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Posted on Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:42 pm

I see 2 main advantages for getting vlads:

1.You can get most of the items cheap and early. These are good early items (ring of regen, ROB) and most importantly, you can buy most of it in the side shops. So you can buff your char with them early without going back to town.

2.It is not considered an orb, so you can put deso or skadi for serious ownage

I also think the argument "3 ppl with vlads is dumb" since if those 3 people had HoD or MoM they would all have spent the money on lifesteal anyhow. In league it probably makes more of a difference than pubs and I imagine most people would do it in a league game because they are afraid of being mocked.

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Posted on Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:03 pm

@topic: wrong. not useless. you fail

Vlads isn't useless. helps out melee people with innate orbs and support heros in pushes. actually betterfor the team if the support gets it so a carry/tank doesnt have to take up an item slot plus they can use the 2k gold for something better (like, for example, 2 blades towards a diffusal )
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Posted on Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:08 pm

also

do know that some heroes only need a bit of mana regen (ursa for example) and vlads fits in that.
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Posted on Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:14 pm

It's not useless.
Not close.
Wrong.
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Posted on Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:31 pm

I only use it on a few heroes;

Meepo (A must.)
Magina (Great item considering Magina has a great orb)
Ursa (Really great)
Mortred if I go stygian or another orb
Kunkka, since I usually go S&Y build on him.
Lycan - good for his wolves
Brood - gg with the small spiders
PL - good for illusions
Alchemist - I use S&Y on him

Can't think of any more atm.

But Vlad's is a great item on some heroes.
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Posted on Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:50 pm

I play Meepo quite a bit and based on my usage of him alone I can tell you that this thread topic fails. The Brilliance and Lifesteal auras are excellent for him -- a little extra spell spamming goes a long way, and by sending the real Meepo with Vlad's with one clone to jungle while my other two do something else is immensely helpful as well.

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Posted on Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:59 pm

I think vlads id very good for pushing and for many mellee heroes

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Posted on Fri Oct 02, 2009 10:13 pm

depending on usage vlads can be more than just lifesteal aura...
u dont just get vlads for ursa, magina and heroes that already have orbs and you prefer lifesteal as an orb of choice...
vlads is overall item that boost pretty much everything, from your damage, armour, hp/mp regen, and so precious lifesteal
getting this on support heroes will let your team's carry to spend those 2k gold on some core item or w/e
only thing i dont like about vlads it's that it seems weak lategame when you can afford practically anything and you already have desolator or diffusal...
ice-frog should really consider to make some extra slot for items via item
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Posted on Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:29 am

Vlads is useless???

nope, i think its not....i often use vlads for bloodseeker, together with stygian deso and assault cuirass......

it is also good for self-replication heroes like Naga siren, Terrorblade, meepo, Chaos Knight, Phantom Lancer, Mercurial, and others......

also, it gives 15% damage to all nearby ally creeps, and also to your hero.....and the mana regen is also good......

why the hell did the author say that vlads is useless???
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Posted on Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:32 am

i dun see why it would be useless. Early game its quite pointless getting it- seeing as it is WAY better to rush stats/orb items imo. When I play inhouse games -which is almost the only thing I play cuz I hate noobs- we make sure there is at least 1 vlads in the team. I always rush magic stick and bottle on aaaaalmost every hero I play ( with exception of heroes who aren´t built for early game ganking or aren´t mana dependant ) seeing as they provide the edge you very often find yourself in need of in battles.
What one must remember is that it is an AURA- not a 1 hero item. It provides life steal damage armor and mana reg for your entire team in clashes. 2k is nothing to provide such benefits for your team =)

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Posted on Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:38 am

pretty much any summoner or push hero is EPIC with vlads.

yes, prophet is very very good with it.
the bonus damage is roughly +3 to creeps, in a creep wave this is a total of +18 (late game) total to treants/ghouls factor in the +5 armour and lifesteal and pushing is an inevitable side effect.
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Posted on Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:20 am

@ guns & ic4three
getting vlads for furion is ...well yes, sounds stupid. furion will not benefit on vampiric aura.

if your plan is to give more buff to his treants, then vampiric auro gives a very small amount of lifesteal. a normal treant can steal approximately 4 HP while mega treants is 7 HP. why not stick to ring of basilius (500 gold) and use the 1550 gold (vladmir upgrade) to something else. besides you'll have meka in your build.
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Posted on Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:49 am

lol, i get meka, vlads, AC on prophet.

simply because while I don't benefit from the aura, my allies do.
I will not be solo ganking, so why not aura monger?
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