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Critical and Evasion don't stack and more (updated)

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Nova


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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:09 am

Dang

I'm loosing my touch^^
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yukino_silvermaine


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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:11 am

That's ok.
*shrug*

And I think it's losing.
O_O

[Yeah that's right. Rub salt into those wounds..]
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Nether


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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 12:34 am

Will MoM lifeleech stack with S&Y's Maim?

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Garfield


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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 12:48 am

No, lifesteal overrides Maim all the time.
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xXxXForeveR_n00bxXxX


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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:23 pm

oK.......

MkB is beTTer than getting buTTerfly. for one of iTs(effects..(high evasion) does not stack w/ her BLUR(28%). s0 sAngE yasHa sTacks w/ satanic right? (correct me if wrong) + mkb = godlike

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yukino_silvermaine


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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:27 pm

Lifesteal overrides maim.

That means you'll never maim the target when you have a lifesteal item.


And the case you stated is just for Mortred.
^_^
Ok ok..

And also, please resize your signature. It's too tall. Remove the Dota Strategy sig or replace it with the DotaStrategy userbar if you want the DS in you Laughing. [search in the graphics forum for the DS userbar]
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Garfield


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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:55 am

Yukino, did you notice that I already posted what you had posted about lifesteal overriding maim? Do people not read anymore?
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yukino_silvermaine


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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 4:37 pm

*sigh*

I think they don't.

There's even an Orb Effect thread that is a STICKY.
O_O

Oh well..
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reccerosama


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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 4:59 pm

im not sure, but is it possible to hav 2 mkb's and tha stun happening at tha same time for each, would tha tha stun an bonus damage stack?
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yukino_silvermaine


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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:26 am

Only one MKB trigger will activate. The other will be overridden.
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FF_Dr@gon


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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:56 pm

Right. Purchasing 2 mkb will only give u higher chance (51%) to get 100 bonus damage instead of giving 200 bonus damage.
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mmantiss


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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:56 am

I agree about not getting a buriza for mortred.... but what about Slithice (naga siren)? She gets a natural 45% chance to crit 1.5 .... a buriza is 20% chance to 1.75 as I remember. Rough guess would be 60% chance to crit? Also works on images correct? Even if it does overide the natural crit it is a higher %. Makes "cents" to me

mmantiss?

(off topic part) Hmmm... Am I the only one who gets all fuzzy inside about a refresher on Naga? Would the previous images disappear? I know another net (total of 10 sec + creep block time) would mean a for sure kill. Then add Manta for another 2 (x2) would give you 10 images. Of couse you cast ur song first.... 8 sec is enough to pop out 10 images for sure.... might add some necros hehehe 12!

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yukino_silvermaine


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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:04 am

Buriza has 20% chance to do 2.2x damage.

With a high Critical rate, do you really need Buriza? Why not invest money on other items then?

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Joxie


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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 3:36 am

Question:
What about MKB and Basher chance?
are they stack or stand alone or when triggered, can be triggered in same time?

What about kardel's, faceless void's and Slitherin's chance to stun? do it stack with basher or mkb?

Mangix chance to miss is override if he using butterfly right? [even no one will buy it].

OOT:
Can Mangix's clamp stop Sand King's epi?
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:58 am

MKB's and Basher's chance to trigger happens separately, so there's no stacking really. If you combine the chance, then they stack diminishingly. This means that there's a lower chance than the total chance if you add it. Don't know how the computation works though. But if both trigger, then MKB's Bash happens. Also, when Basher's Bash triggers, then followed by MKB's Bash, then the new stun duration would take effect, meaning MKB cancels Basher's stun duration.

Heroes' passive Bash stacks diminishingly too with items with Bash.

As for Evasion, the one with the highest chance to evade is the one that overrides the others. So Butterfly with 25% evasion overrides Mangix's 24% evasion.

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