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yukino_silvermaine


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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:13 am

No no, criticals NEVER stack. They override one another.
The latest critical skill you get will override the former.
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MI-Bugsy


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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:35 pm

kothariakhil wrote:
However, you can't have a critical strike on an already critical strike. So you will see 2 different critical strike numbers once in a while but you won't see a massive critical strike.


Yea i've actually seen the 2crits...not too sure bout how it works...but i dont care...i rather go for a mkb for heroes with crit.Also feel heroes with bash also dont need bashers...they rather get aspd items.As far as evasion is concerned...u shud be happy with the passive evasion u get for heroes...and i do think butterfly stacks with it...dunno bout the evasion frm butterfly and radiance though 25%+8% Alien .
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yukino_silvermaine


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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:37 pm

Evasion never stacks.

Criticals override.
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TheNotorious


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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:28 pm

does -armour stack
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yukino_silvermaine


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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:52 pm

Of course. Armor stacks. However, the armor reduction is diminishing.
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mando


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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:09 am

my gosh....take me so long to realize that...T_T

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zedric


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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:25 am

yukino_silvermaine wrote:
Of course. Armor stacks. However, the armor reduction is diminishing.

Actually that is a misconception. Well, miswording more likely. While it appears that gaining armor is a situation with diminishing returns the math shows it as a linear gain. Each and every point of Armor is worth a 6% bonus to your EHP (EffectiveHitPoints). This seems wrong because when you scroll over your tooltip on armor the % of reduction seems to be climbing more slowly..and is, but....since it is a fixed percentage and not just a flat amount of damage reduction, the mathcraft shows a linear(same, constant) increase. Remember, a 50% damage reduction means they have to do 2x as much damage to kill you as you have HP(assuming physical attacks only)
Keep in mind though that JUST massing armor is not as effective as a combination of HP and Armor..in most cases. Centaur doesn't need more HP so all out Armor is the best way to raise his EHP whereas a lower health hero usually benefits "more" from pure HP earlier.

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Liger


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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:26 pm

I am confused Mortred's ultimate
1)stacks with buriza with the formula
2)has independent chances to occur with buriza
3)does not stacks with buriza, one of the two covers the other

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yukino_silvermaine


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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:13 am

@ Liger
Criticals override one another.

Trigger chance don't stack. They are separate "events"
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:10 am

Nice thread. Now I won't tell these to mah classmates!!!!

Question:

You have Skadi and MKB in your inventory. You proc MKB, will the frost attack stack with MKB proc??? Tnx in advance..
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:14 am

MKB doesn't have an orb effect, so yes.
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:16 am

Hmmm....

So as desolator?
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:10 pm

hey hey hey........ question here..... cause i was so amazed O_O with my friend's jah'rakal........ you did say that crits override right?and the chance won't get higher right?

then why was [3 burizas+rampage=total carnage]?..... i was on the upper lane for the scourge and then the jah'rakal with 3 burizas rampaged and attacked me with short range mode..you know what happened? almost pure critical strike!.. only about 3or4 attacks weren't criticals!

and when i tried it on roshan(the very first roshan that you will kill)i did rampage with only two burizas, i saw my crit strikes overlapping..and it took only about less than 10secs for me to kill roshan. almost all of my attacks were crit and the ratio on the chance of my crit strike was 8:10

can you explain please?
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yukino_silvermaine


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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:43 am

The chances stack diminishingly, the damage does not.

*facepalm*
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!_Mawwvin


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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:28 am

hi guys... this is my first post here!
but heres my question...
how about 2 or more vanguards???
do they stack???
because my friend says that they don't...
so i just wanna clarify...

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