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arboks


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Warlock's synergy with Golem

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:30 pm

I know the "reign of chaos golem" thing from warlock's spell work is quite fine but the point of the slow with warlock just standing there is quite very annoying given it just provides slowing effects.

Because if this is how the combo works then this combo will be rendered useless from early lategame and so on.

Why is this so?

If warlock will just channel his superslow skill he is vulnerable to many things such as stun, slow, aoe magics etc. with him just relying solely on the golem's power.

What i'm pointing is that the Golem's power does not add up to the progress of the game quite fairly.

Some of the Golem's flaws:
*Notice that the golem is not upgradable by aganims scepter
*has a VERY IRRITATING SLOW ATTACK SPEED which would not suffice for his 40% chance for 150 bonus damage pulverize attack.
*Even placing assault cuirass would not do.
*And mid to late game time, most heroes are able to deal considerable damage that is much devastating than warlock's golem. They are even strong enough to withsand the golem's attacks
*slow movespeed
*cooldown is quite long

Probable solutions:
*the range of casting the slow should be at about 800 range
*when inside the slow area, the Golem's attack speed should increase equal to the slowing effect percentage per second until the end of skill duration
*Lastly, should be upgradable by scepter with cooldown dramtically changed to about 100 second cooldown
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Mentalcowman


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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:40 pm

agree, it is slow and mid-late game it is laughably weak. But its a good initiator spell, maybe up the stun to like 1.8-2 seconds or give it a passive slow, anything would be good.
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:41 pm

ok then.. why don't you tell icefrog?
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arboks


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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:42 pm

i don't know hgow to directly contact the forg?? how can isuggest directly to him???
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:50 pm

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arboks


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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:56 pm

tnx ihope this happnes.^^ would you???
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:59 pm

a hero like warlock isnt likely to be buffed anywhere near now



he's the best babysitter, someone who functions without items, thats why he's great
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:09 pm

Counter_Force[X] wrote:
a hero like warlock isnt likely to be buffed anywhere near now



he's the best babysitter, someone who functions without items, thats why he's great


And warlock is not supposed to KILL.

never mind my 11 kill warlock replay from lucky last hits >.>
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:20 pm

...You sure about this? I once casted his ultimate twice (Refresher) and completely took out 3 people. That pulverize is nasty when it procs 3 times in a row. But he still is a boring hero to use. I think he just needs a remake.
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:34 pm

Ok, rephrase to mean he should never be played to (as in for the sole purpose of) kill Laughing
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:17 pm

migrees wrote:
Counter_Force[X] wrote:
a hero like warlock isnt likely to be buffed anywhere near now



he's the best babysitter, someone who functions without items, thats why he's great


And warlock is not supposed to KILL.

never mind my 11 kill warlock replay from lucky last hits >.>


Just 11?Want me to show you how real carry/support warlock?

Anyways, if he needs to get a buff, it will be his slow stopped being channeling...That's the only thing...AND IT AIN'T GOLEM IT'S INFERNAL!!!!!!!LEARN HIS NAME FIRST!

Also, Lock isn't meant to kill in the first place...he is all around support/pusher...so learn to play him like that...

Lock isn't boring, but he just shouldn't try to kill...Infernal is a powerful pushing material, can wipe out creeps with ease, and has huge regen+you can cast SW on him, making him next to immune to tower hits...

Appreciate him the way he is, cause he doesn't need any changes right now...
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:27 pm

How can you say a powerhouse hero, like Warlock, needs buff? Boring? I used to play him a lot, and believe me, he is good as he is now. Though he is not a good killer, I've taken down some hardcore carries by worldclass players(Loda's Slardar was once killed by my Warlock. XD)
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:50 pm

Tokemus wrote:
...You sure about this? I once casted his ultimate twice (Refresher) and completely took out 3 people. That pulverize is nasty when it procs 3 times in a row. But he still is a boring hero to use. I think he just needs a remake.


A rmk is not necessary since he's still widely used in leagues.

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Warlock is never supposed to solo any heroes in the first place, why are you playing him like it?
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:50 pm

I think warlock is good in team fights.. 1 skill is useful, second is imba early game and the slow is awesome too... infernal.. he just falls down for 2 seconds stun giving enough time to set up ults. And he is good to push towers and creeps after the team fight.. even warlock is dead.

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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:03 pm

just because mirana's ultimate doesn't synergize with her skills, it doesn't mean its a bad skill.

warlocks infernal isn't ment for killing.

making every skill usefull would mess up the balance
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