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Ghost


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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:38 am

@parkguy.

except that it is a team game?
I dunno what one of my many why LoL is different to DotA and HoN rants you were after.
or are we after Ghost's guide to LoL?



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I ran some basic stats through my head and found that when you rush Rylai, you are still getting the damage from your physical damage when you ulti, so I went further with hypothetical builds and have found that damage items will always yeild better results, except you lose the slow.

at the same time, you lose some epic shunpo damage by losing AP
if you go for a fusion, the closest you are going to get is Rylai + DAMAGE if you want to be effective, less damage than the pure PDPS build but you have a slow.
also quite tanky.
oh and you get 25 AP from Trinity Blades, never forget that :P
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:55 am

Ghost wrote:
Malphite - Ninja Tabai, Frozen Heart, Guardian Angel, Sunfire Cape, Banshee.


Me doesn't think that's cool =D

anyway my build yesterday in a normal game was:
Cloth armor(starting)
Warmog's(rush) i had like 4 k after my early game farming.
Ninja Tabi
Aegis of the Legion

then it ended but i would have probably gotten guardian angel and... i don't know what else =D probably something armor or health.

Thanks to Vins For teaching me ^_^
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Ghost


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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:42 am

my build is for epic gank fests.
and you need to jungle the entire game.
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:22 am

my build works with ganging too. well i think we mostly won cause of vins' shaco but... i mean malphite only has one stun with not such a low cd so...but his stun can really turn a team fight.
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Ghost


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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:27 am

and for that reason it is actually getting a nerf.
he initiates a bit to well.
same with amumu, bandage in, ulti.
team down for 3 seconds.

maphite works on more a less the same principle but he can follow up with a crippling blow to the enemy attack speed.
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:58 am

Wait maplh is getting nerfed? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. -___-

i checked amumu's skills, he seems really op alright. combo him with a nunu or anivia and it's like team kill.
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Ghost


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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:11 am

pretty much.

he and Nasus standing next to each other kills the enemy team in 10 seconds if they are both alive.
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Invokerrr


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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:23 am

TraitorKing wrote:
So... I've been playing singed alot latly... anyone got a decent item build? im still working on one


I own with Singed. 1st item to get is Catlyst of the protector because it fills your mana and hp upon lvling up letting you stay in lane early and will give you both str and mana and will transform into the #2 item.

The build in chronological order (except boots which you start after catalyst and finish sometime mid game)

#1Boots of switfness

#2Rod of Ages - Adds mana and hp but more importantly Ability power to make you gas more deadly. Plus its component (your 1st item) gives you mana and hp when you lvl which is great for staying in lane early

#3 Mejai's Souldstealer. This gives 70 Ap and +10 ap per hero kill. So if you planning on killing at least 7 times get this for a kick ass 140 AP

#4 Sunfire cape. Because after buying the soul stealer I like to make my next item a little tankish. This adds pain to your gas if theyre close..

#5 Lichbane- Because Movespeed is key plus with the above items you have almost no normal attacking ability *shh dont tell anyone but its true Singed deals 95% of his damage magically

So lichbane gives you 100% of your massive ability power into your next attack every 3 seconds. Perfect. You were never gonna land more than that anyway since theyre always running or your not able to normal attack since your focused on staying in front and keeping them in your dust.

#6 Zohnyas Ring Last because its best when you already have a ton of ability power. This 6th item is really situational and you could get force of nature or something else depending on situation. Zohnyas though if you just want to make imbalanced AP

This build rules because you gas will be extremely powerful you will just melt anyone who gets tossed into your gas. You will be tank enough to last with anyone in a fight except vs warwick. Your potent gas will wear them out 1st and then when they realize this and run just throw the glue in their escape path and go for the finishing toss. Plus with this build you will rarely run out of mana.

This builds weaknes; little hp regen so you may have to waste your ult to refil or go back to the shop and then tp back into battle. Maybe get a hp regen item for #6


Anyway that's how I play him.

p.s Skill build

Toss
Gas
Glue
Gas
Gas
Ult and every other time its available
Gas
Gas
Toss
Toss
Toss
Toss
Glue
Glue
Glue

Justification: You want all 3 skills right away toss is best 1st cause you can get fb easily if they venture into the brush just toss them behind to your ally. Then get gas 2nd, then get glue to make their escapes impossible. Max that gas asap.
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user604


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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:39 am

Nasus is a pretty awesome hero and he can get strong late game

Skills
Siphon>Wither>Siphon>Inner>Siphon>Ult
Then max Siphon, then Inner, Wither last, and take ult whenever you can
1 level of wither is good enough if you can farm a phage fast enough

Items
Meki pendant(siphon last hits so it gets strong)
Mercury Treads(40% cc reduction is great)
Trinity Force(phage first>sheen>zeal)
Nashor's Tooth
Depending on the situation Frozen heart(need to tank a bit) or Last whisper(against tanks/lots of damage+attack speed)

I find that the hp boost from his ult is enough for team fights

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Ghost


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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:49 am

hmm, never underestimate the farming power of Spirit Fire, it is also an essential item for team clashes as it lowers the enemies armour.

IF, SS, IF, W, IF, ULTI, max IF followed by wither.
use SS to farm up damage while in the lane phase.
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:16 am

Sigh ap singed...you got to be kidding me with that build

start with catalyst and get banshee better,then gets tank items not AP or something,the guy was made to tank,not stack mp to get HP,tanking is not about 4k health with 30 armor o_O?

tanking is about tanking damage with armor and magic resistance HP is just a little part of it?who cares if you have 4k hp and you get hit by 200 every hit,and rammus has 2k hp and he gets hit by 20~
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:43 am

vins , panda and tsakaman could you add me on LoL ? summoner name : MiniGaY

don't you think there are a lots of noobs actually on LoL because every game i play i end with some good stats (like 9/2/5) but i still lose because of my allies weakness ...

plus do you know how the game finder system works (is it like in Bnet ? for each game you win you play vs someone with best lvl if you lose you play vs lower lvl)
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Invokerrr


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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:08 am

The rod of ages and sunfire are tank items. They both have hp and rod has magic resist.

Anyway Singed ult makes him so tanky you really dont need more than what I've put in my build. With my way you often appear to be vulnerable making them chase you for longer until they realize oh shit this gas is REALLY REALLY strong. By that time it is to late for them.

Mind games, you will win so much easier if they chase you and not the other way around.

I can tell that you've never tried AP singed btw cause you wouldn't have wrote that if you did.
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vins


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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:13 am

mind games of what?you cant do mindgames with poison trail and your ulti leaves green dots on the earth wtf you talking about mind games?even the sound of ulti is sloud load you can hear it from lane when singed is in forest


anyway sugested items from almost every champions are really fail and your build is the same soz-.-'
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Invokerrr


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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:19 am

Mind games get you hp very low to keep them chasing, its much easier to keep them in the gas if they are chasing you and not the other way around where you try to stay in front of them.

Then when time is right activate ult to shatter their hopes and leave them dying with poison when they run throw glue in their escape path toss back into the gas and they are dead.

This of course only works if you gas has upgraded AP
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