DotaStrategy.com - Bfly or HoT? What should be bought first on PL?

Ghost

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Posted on Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:31 am

Pipe, Phase, Diffusal, Heart, Butterfly.

diffusal is a great boost to DPS.
Heart makes you and your images do that damage for longer.
butterfly, evasion, countered by AoE nukes.

Heart is by far the more effective item, but wouldn't say no to a talisman early.
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chris558

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Posted on Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:43 am

Lol bkb on pl is worst idea ever you are phantom the illusion master your strenght comes from behiding and using clones for fight and not taunt and tell everyone attack you.... Bkb fails on pl

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aris000

Monster Kill Posts: 335 Joined: 01 Feb 2009 Warnings : 1 11457 gold

Posted on Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:58 am

my build on PL is
treads/BOT
diffusal
HOT
Bfly

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Vita.NovA

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Posted on Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:03 am

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luffybounty

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Posted on Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:13 am

@Vita.Nova
nah. Diffusal works better as a slow. Besides, the mana burn is something.
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pomlaos

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Posted on Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:15 am

Get a TOE and some hp. TOE is what makes battlefury almost useless. I have seen this PL rush butterfly. I was jugger I had a hotd pt(str) battlefruy, 1 null 1 bracer. I couldn't even do a thing. Kept on missing.
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sfsy1

Beyond Godlike Posts: 5298 Joined: 08 Sep 2007 Warnings : 3 36354 gold

Posted on Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:41 pm

+Stars.At.Night- wrote:
buying BKB on PL is like Saying IF YOU HIT THIS ONE YOU GET MONEY AND BRAGGING RIGHTS.

yet at the same time:

YOU CAN HIT THIS BUT YOU CANNOT CAST MOST SPELL ON THIS!

imo, bfly, since bfly = better farming = faster HoT or any other item.

its a between bfly and hot lol, so many ppl digressing.

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Counter_Force[X]

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Posted on Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:43 pm

actually sfsy1, it's untrue. PL does better IMO with hood, a more passive item suited to a carry

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DaMan2000

Godlike Posts: 2009 Joined: 19 Aug 2008 Warnings : 3 54198 gold

Posted on Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:57 pm

Ghost wrote:
Pipe, Phase, Diffusal, Heart, Butterfly.

diffusal is a great boost to DPS.
Heart makes you and your images do that damage for longer.
butterfly, evasion, countered by AoE nukes.

Heart is by far the more effective item, but wouldn't say no to a talisman early.

Diffuse rush is win. PL isnt an attacking hero. His DPS comes from his Spirit Lance and illusions to Mana burn the enemies to death. Butterfly greatly benefits illusions.
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Posted on Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:59 pm

the current trend shows a lean to favor radiance. not downright usefull but it does makes him harder to overcome.

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DaMan2000

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Posted on Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:04 pm

I'm starting to see a lot of Radiances too, but frankly, I disagree. PL shouldnt be played like Spectre. His illusion spams are only possible from close range, and his hp sucks so people can easily destroy them. The 60+ damage doesnt benefit him well since he wont be attacking, but rather his illusions will be attacking. Diffuse rush is better since it means more DPS for the illusions.

PL is very paper unlike Spectre and should focus more on ganking and push farming. His illusions can already mow down a creep wave in 5 seconds so Radiance wont kick in that much.
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Posted on Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:07 pm

radiance+spirit is awesome. you cast it long ranged, you got stunned, you still immolates. also useful when trying to mitigate pushes. with his spirit lane he is capable of increasing his damage AoE massively. not the best all rounder item but definitely powerful in a lot of situations

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Pencilhead

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Posted on Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:14 pm

What happened to all the "only stat items for image heroes" I was hearing about a year ago?
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Dyncommon

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Posted on Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:39 pm

Hmmmm, I'm still a fan of manta over butterfly depending on the other teams lineup. Of course I think heart after diffusal is a must if you are having a decent game.
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Pencilhead

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Posted on Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:55 pm

Does manta increase your survivability more or heart?
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