DotaStrategy.com - Bfly or HoT? What should be bought first on PL?

Dyncommon

Monster Kill Posts: 347 Joined: 25 Mar 2009 9637 gold

Posted on Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:29 pm

Pencilhead wrote:
Does manta increase your survivability more or heart?

Heart by far. But it doesn't provide damage so it depends on whether you get it or not. Manta can be used for some hilarious kills and to dodge projectiles. Also gives you a nice opener for battles.
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Vita.NovA

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Posted on Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:38 pm

luffybounty wrote:
@Vita.Nova
nah. Diffusal works better as a slow. Besides, the mana burn is something.

su troll

besides, does diffusal give you a large mana pool, a slow where you can ALWAYS count on and hp?

have to look that up

sfsy1 wrote:

imo, bfly, since bfly = better farming = faster HoT or any other item.

imo, heart, since heart = less dieing = less gold loss = faster bfly or any other item.

skadi then heart is my preference
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looneytunes

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Posted on Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:47 pm

hmm, if you plan on pushing BIGTIME i would say bfly simply because of the overwhelming dmg and stats for illusions. When i play pl, I use him to blitz though, I dont need another 1k life to stay in the fray...

Its hard for a good pl to easily die so heart seems like overkill in some ways. and as for bkb.. Im just imagining Shaq standing in a crowd of chinese people being focus fired.

yep, imo i would go for bfly first (after the normal items of course)
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Posted on Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:07 am

Pencilhead wrote:
What happened to all the "only stat items for image heroes" I was hearing about a year ago?

what i dont get rad on tb?

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4dr1

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Posted on Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:41 am

Bfly is better
More dmg for 'real' pl
More dmg for 'fake' pl
More evasion
N butterfly is kinda cute xD
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Posted on Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:42 am

jakiro breathes and all those damage vanishes

magic?

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looneytunes

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Posted on Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:49 am

Luckily pl is known for being able to create illusions VERY easily, so jakiro will have to breathe quite a bit. Lets also keep in mind that more often then not, Pl has a team so its not all about him tanking all the dmg.
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Posted on Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:53 am

so you disregard the damage the real one takes and the fact each successive illusions afterwards are weaker?

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Fleuriem

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Posted on Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:37 am

Butterfly wins! after diffu ocourse. do i have to vote or somthing? i dont like radiance,,,its the best against lanaya team though, but still. you have to be away farming for a long timne b4 that relic
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Pencilhead

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Posted on Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:17 am

Just had a game with PL, it was about 80 min ih. Directly after travel, diffusal, and vlads, I got HoT. A naga on the other team with exact same items except bfly instead of heart and owned me, but their lina and bane were completely ineffective against my superior hp. So heart against nukers and bfly against dps?
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Pein EVO

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Posted on Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:17 am

butterfly for me.. more attackspeed = more illusion = more dps.. true that hot give your more survivability, but with more dps you can farm faster for hot..
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L.u.c.i.f.e.r.

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Posted on Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:52 am

correct me if im wrong but the illusions dont get the evasion, the damage or the attack speed, only the agility from bfly.

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Vita.NovA

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Posted on Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:27 am

bfly gives 30 dmg 30 aspd and some armor from the 30 agi and 30 evasion
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Posted on Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:29 am

Pencilhead wrote:
Just had a game with PL, it was about 80 min ih. Directly after travel, diffusal, and vlads, I got HoT. A naga on the other team with exact same items except bfly instead of heart and owned me, but their lina and bane were completely ineffective against my superior hp. So heart against nukers and bfly against dps?

wow IH? post it please?

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L.u.c.i.f.e.r.

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Posted on Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:39 am

Quote:
bfly gives 30 dmg 30 aspd and some armor from the 30 agi and 30 evasion

to the main pl.

the illusions only get 30 agility and the associated armor.

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