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Ghost

Imperator Posts: 7797 Joined: 01 Jan 2007 377139 gold



copy pasta as a blog giving all due credit.
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topika007

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Yeah. BB is quite awesome.
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Beyond Godlike Posts: 6890 Joined: 13 Aug 2007 Warnings : 2 8252 gold



L.u.c.i.f.e.r. wrote:
phoenix was right. i read the thread throughout but had nothing really constructive to add...

BB is imo like bfury. viable, but not worth it. there are better things you can do with your picks. i like to think of visage as a better BB. BB surpasses visage only in AOE(visage core is rad) and armour reduction and there are people who do AOE and armour reduction better than BB(sladar). Otherwise, visage does everything he does and more.
you know, that was exactly the view a very well known person on DS gave on clockwerk a while ago, and not so long, he was permaban material and is probably the one who took the hardest hit by the nerfstick. not that i dont value your opinion, but "was right" is not actually a prerogative. you dont decide what the top boys pick, mind that. i am just saying my opinion on BB as a strong hero, but i do acknowledge slardar/panda is a stronger hero


@ghost
thanks for that. appreciate it



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i will not be able to do the next discussion, as i am involved with a university programme for 4 days starting friday. someone else must do it. post your writings to bobbob247 and Phoenix.dss to get evaluated and a bit improved. you dont have to write perfectly as it doesnt actually help e.g. this thread is quite controversial but it fulfilled the purpose

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Ghost

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ok, good luck with that.



as for the clocwerk thing.
best bit about it was they were using caster builds.

so to all the haters of my guide, suck it.
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Beyond Godlike Posts: 6890 Joined: 13 Aug 2007 Warnings : 2 8252 gold



well, i guess BF-SnY-Vlads are too sexy for someone with no DPS potential

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Ghost

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lolwut, they all want MoM, Fury, MkB and Crits to make their way into my guide.

if I ever do update it, the first thing I'm adding is a second message as to why it is a stupid idea... perhaps I can let that dominate my guide.
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or you should reset all the worthless scores on those arguments. i see that as a dictatorship but stupid people have no right to vote anyway

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Ghost

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but first I need to update it, god knows how long that might take me.. but summer holidays, I'll put a request in at the replay centre for clockwerk and n'aix and see what I can come up with.

getting further off topic, do you know if the blink+orchid build is still viable on n'aix?... well I know it is. but should I scrap the guide for having league tenancies?



on topic:
BB is the sex
next stable map i would imagine we will see a whole lot more of him.
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unless there is a huge metagame shift, which might happen seeming how there is still probability on icefrog loving to buff DPS


as for naix, i dont really thin orchid is well justified. deso is the better choice after armlet, but dagger owns if you team has the initiate advatage/ganking advantage which is dominant on winning currently. most heroes essential for 6.64 cant take any more than 5-6 hits from naix but the have ranged advantage to their team which a dagger overcomes.


thus, it is awesome, or as you say it, the sex

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Ghost

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I just find orchid provides everything you might want, an endless supply of mana, attack speed, some form of damage and a silence with great synergy to your passive. the build is Armlet, Phase/Treads, Dagger, Orchid.
cheap and effective (I say cheap in that 90% of the components can be bought from the side shop and every component is cheap (less than 1000 gold, bar dagger))

clockwerk and bb benefit from the buffs to DPS (indirectly) while n'aix will be pushed back a bit. curse the shift from %based damage to something less.. n'aix friendly.
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orchid's amplify is quite unreliable, you'll want deso for the -armor+feast synergy that functions all the time. i also believe that silence is quite weaksauce, not necessary as you have rage anyway.

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reiva00

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Silence of Orchid isnt so good since it doesn't last that long. If you wna amplify the damage, use that Gold for a Deso or AC. U benefit little from Orchid cept the attack speed (which is minimal).. Mana regen? Meh... And u don't need the Mana pool.

But i wud really like to see more of Naix in competitive games again. Str DPS are the sex! hehehe... Serp's thread was spot on.

About BB, i feel that, as long as the other Team does not pick Ursa... Then BB is a safe bet! hehehe...
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quale

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hmm, i was thinking of shiva for rigwarl. more mana. mana regen, armor, slow, plus AoE damage. but the idea of rigwarl farming for a mystic staff is actually weird.
Laughing

well shiva is probably better than orchid.
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jovica

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Hi !

Well i just played a game with bb and after powertreads hood 2 bracers rad and vlads i got shiva!

It worked awsomely it does a great job of tanking his armour up and gives him more aoe and a slow.

So imo its good but not likeo n puck where you rush it...

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reiva00

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Shivas could actually be viable... I'll try it out... The active slow does well for chasing, armor to boost up his tanking ability and the much needed mana for goo and spray... I'll get back to u on the results..
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