Tinker Vs (Best Carries)

Posted on Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:33 pm

tink can use ghost scepter, and rearm it.

in my pov tinker is one of the best heroes with items.
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Posted on Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:58 pm

jovica: exactly. If meepo has dagger, mek and pipe he can pwn tinker. Cause he wont be able to rearm and wont do much dmg either. If meepo can micro well he can have them run 2 and 2 in each forest. Iteresting thought.
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Posted on Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:32 pm

i would say slardar, chaos knight and tb can, everybody with bash i guess.
but if the situation is 5vs5, you normally dont need to fight solo vs tinker, he can buy any anti-items like bkb or ghost szepter anyways. thats why you have so cool heroes like enigma or bane, who kill or at least hold to kill him, before he can do anything at all.
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Posted on Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:41 pm


Void can beat him as well as a bunch of other carries

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Posted on Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:59 am

stop giving stupid heroes that can beat tinker when overfarmed



tinker>silencer in most cases as well.

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Posted on Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:09 am



Stupid.



Another one.

Tinker > Silencer. Silencer can't kill Tinker in 5 seconds. Guinsoo/Orchid > Last Word. Doom > Tinker. Then again, Doom rapes. GS > BKB. Tinker + GS = Perma-physical-damage-invulnerability. Bashing heroes will fail. Guinsoo has 800 cast range. You won't even touch Tinker.
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Posted on Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:50 am

TRy MKB mini stun stops TP and rearm i guess
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Posted on Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:26 am

Drow ranger can pwned Tinker since she has silence, slow, and Huge Damage especially with Buriza
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Posted on Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:29 am

How long does it take to get MKB??????? and how can a chicken use a monkey king bar

Drow??Downt make me Laugh again Hex is the Answer Drow is too Paper to take tinker

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@jovica; Hmmm thats viable then again i dont see alot of good meepos
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Posted on Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:46 am

Or Pugna ?
Drow with BKB ?
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Posted on Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:48 am

Your saying drow shud buy BKB before DPS items? And so what if he does Tink can get GS which is a mere 1500 gold
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Posted on Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:55 am

it depends on situation...
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Posted on Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:35 am

ok this breaks me


you do not define a carry by his attribute nor from his potential; a better carry is a hero with generally better natural capabilities that allows him to be a potent damage dealer. most heroes do this by either having nukes or strongly combined physical prowess. take example ursa vs void; void has better full potential but such condition is hard to achieve in any standard game where the competence of each player matches. ursa can carry easier despite being a physical damage dealer as void because he have a ganking/farm power through his slow, he does not need to overbuff his physical attacks(overpower, fury swipes) and the way he is encouraged to be built allows him to be a tanker as well. this means that he is a stronger carry in general as; he has the natural capabilties and heavier survival.

as for the tinker case. i would like to remind again, a good carry is measured and defined by his abilities to help his team win a game. a tinker is a strong solo hero; he cant be easily killed thanks to his ranged power and laser(miss), and he can easily take down most heroes in the early game portion. a drow/void/shit on the other hand are relatively useless early as they lack spatial advantage(nukers can deal damage from greater distance with better output) therefore they are weak at intimidating. suppose you say, silence>tinker, this statement is true but before the silence, a tinker would have the greater perspective advantage. laser+rocket combo takes away almost full HP early, and the combo takes less than one second. after that it doesnt matter if tinker is slowed; your hero is now dying and misses most of her/his attacks. in perspective, as long as tinker uses laser, drow lose.

drow is also a weak farmer while tinker has the rearm+march option. he can easily farm up for items to make up for his spell's gradual weakening and he is obviously a better pusher, which makes him a better carry in 1v1 comparison, as the game isnt about kills, you win when the throne/tree goes down, and tinker is more adept at that.

as for now, i would like every person to drop arguments regarding a hero's strength by defining it from only a spell or potential viewpoint as done on silence vs tinker case. global silence prevents spell usage and it counters tinker but you seem to be forgetting about the remaining 4 heroes and their combo efficiency. if silencer dies first, the prospect is broken and therefore tinker>silencer. tinker is also a stronger ganker and laner in comparison, and still farms better

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Posted on Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:05 am

you guys just say WHAT IF what if just -bleep- it there are so many possibilities about it,and you gonna -bleep- your brains out for this?BkB makes sense,but the problem is you cant beat him,he will overfarm you and -bleep- you too so... <- my lil essay end get
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Posted on Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:10 am

lol vins the picture in your sig is photoshoped...
its the same in all the frames.. from eyebrow to eyes to lips, no one can have the exact same expression in more then 2 shots..

btw u passed the 275 kb limit D:


OT: but yea tinker will win 60% of the time
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