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caspian

Imperator Posts: 3232 Joined: 27 Mar 2007 81755 gold

Here are some Meduscandal juicy gossips



It's me. After like a month of MIA.

Anyway, judging from the topic's name you should be able to guess that this thread's about Meduscandal. No prizes for guessing which hero the term refers to. I'm happy to say that she's potentially become the source of controversy (and gossip) again, and here's why.

After her uneventful remake, her skills have more sync somewhat, like

  • The shield using up mana and the snake replenishing it
  • Stone Gaze working in an AoE and the split arrows *happening* to be mass pounding upon the petrified victims


That snake jumps a total of 6 times, the damage of each jump at level 4 skill increasing from

200 -> 240 -> 288 -> 346 -> 414 -> 498

and the mana steal from

50 -> 60 -> 72 -> 86 -> 104 -> 124

That's what the frog stated, period. I was wondering if you guys knew yet more dirty secrets about Meduscandal's snake.

I'm sure being the vicious killers that you people are, you surely want to make your victims suffer the most s**t. That's Dota, unfortunately.

Translation: You want the enemy hero to get the most damage and mana steal from the snake.

What if there's a way to make sure that it will always happen? Evil Grin

What if you can control the snake's jump such that the enemy hero(es) in the lane will always receive AT LEAST the 4th jump damage/mana steal EVERY 11 seconds? Evil Grin

What if I tell you that the snake is a divine boon that can guarantee AT LEAST 3 creep kills PER creep wave? That's a lot to some people. You could get your dream items faster than you know it.

The secret is to aim the Mystic Snake spell at a creep whenever the enemy hero is around. Sounds too simple? Well, it IS that simple. The reason too is simple.

When the snake first travels to a creep, it will make it way around other creeps that are also in the frontline. The hero(es) is usually either at the side (for melee) or back of the creeps (for range). Let's face it - the enemy hero is also trying hard to farm creeps, so those kind of positions are a necessity. Therefore, aiming it at a creep in front of the hero (range) or the opposite side (melee) of the hero almost always ensures that it will be hit at least after the 3rd or 4th jump.

It even works if your enemy is uphill and you cannot see it. The snake has vision of the places it travels to and for amphibian reasons, is able to auto-acquire targets to devour including heroes.

The moment of truth - WHY DOES IT WORK?
Because the snake presents a dilemma to enemy heroes.

If you want to farm you gotta stay somewhere around the creeps. Then you'll never know when Meduscandal will send out her wily snake unless she like, types it out in all chat, which unless Meduscandal just became an idiot is not likely to happen.

Or option B - stay far away from the creeps, in which case you either stay FAR BEHIND the creeps, like more than 500 range behind the furthest ranged creep, and lose exp and possible creep gold. Or pray that somehow you'll be able to tank the snake's wave of attacks.

The 4th jump is already quite powerful - look at the numbers above. In addition, apart from stealing mana from the hero you will also steal mana from the ranged creep every time the snake jumps. Of course, this is assuming that the snake is at level 4.

Get Meduscandal some cheap regen like RoB/Bottle/Wand and with some discretion, the snake will be more devastating than you think. Or be like me - get a Perseverance because I'm lazy to buy chickens and like to stay in lane.

I have a bunch of medusa replays (all 6.64, 1.24b) that you could peruse if you want to get a feel of my Meduscandal.
Download here

Of course, I'll be hearing remarks like this only works in a pub and leaguers probably will not care. Some of you will be even more shocked and say OMG this coming from a mod????!!!! Surprised Well, yeah I guess, but who cares when the snake is much more fun than peer league pressure? Laughing

Besides, if you didn't know already, the leagues are like [insert your mainstream newspaper] - they are always the last to report on some hot news when everyone just goes to their favourite tweeter or blogger for the updates, or when the truth is in front of their eyes they choose to whitewash it. Laughing
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Pein EVO

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Nice! makes me want to use medusa..
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anthdx

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Pein EVO wrote:
Nice! makes me want to use medusa..


+1 mate^^
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reiva00

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Never actually used medusa seriously. Never read the part about the increasing damage and mana stealing either... Hehe, thanks for informing me prince Smile
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anthdx

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reiva00 wrote:
Never actually used medusa seriously. Never read the part about the increasing damage and mana stealing either... Hehe, thanks for informing me prince Smile


lol same here too..i'm just too lazy to read it xD..

just played a game with her against some ai's..
lost unfortunately due to imba siren xd..but i got like 300 cs xD
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Jim888

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Been doing this since the remake...and it does work...some times I play with my mates in Vent and its alway funny to hear them say something like "Many that does a lot of damage" or "why does it always hit me LAST!"

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So her lane control has been buffed, but she still needs a load of farming though. Her ulti change makes her a better contributer in a team situation. Now that HoT has been nerfed, she and her Mana shield is the best tank in the game.
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varunshenoyg

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You guys need to use the Gorgon more often, especially those ignorant of the jump increase in the snake.. She was my fav hero post 6.60 days, and remains one of my top picks.
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vegatod

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makes me want to rape ai with medusa :p
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reiva00

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varunshenoyg wrote:
You guys need to use the Gorgon more often, especially those ignorant of the jump increase in the snake.. She was my fav hero post 6.60 days, and remains one of my top picks.

Yes, but I find her one of the most boring heroes in Dota, even after her remake. Guilty
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HotMegan[Fox]

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i love mystic love.its hell pain for agility and int heroes early-mid game.just time wisely so the last bounce hits the hero.i was accused hack many times >.<
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Skrylius

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Mystic Snake + Stats rock.
Tested in pubs.
Works.
And yea,if you manage to get Snake hit enemy Hero last,and raged creep just before him,you steal nearly as much mana as it costs.
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rambol

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The word "Meduscandal" does not have a nice ring to it. Sounds like the name of a cough medicine.

The content is excellent though.
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caspian

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Skrylius wrote:
Mystic Snake + Stats rock.
Tested in pubs.
Works.


In my replays I do not even bother leveling stats in early game now. It used to be that Chain Lightning (the old skill) + Shield couldn't work because they used too much mana, but now Snake + Shield + some external regen work very well.
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I always go the shield way. And activate shield when you get nuked. It reduces 50% damage to. And yeah I was wondering why did the idiot use mystic on me when he could use on creeps and get more damage. Maybe he doesn't know that it goes up in damage.
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