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GameReaper


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Zeus vs. Razor

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:56 pm

Yeah, the above..in 1 vs 1, although Zeus could maybe win, Razor will dominate. Any opinions on this? Sure, Zeus can spam his lightning magic, but Razor has high atk speed which deals a lot of damage plus he has frenzy. Although Zeus can keep on dealing 300 damage plus with his second skill which only has a 7 second cooldown, Razor can deal massive damage each time he encounters Zeus by just attacking him repeatingly. Furthermore Razor has Storm Seeker which also can kill Zeus easily. Zeus is an INT hero, he does have much HP..does anyone agree with me that Razor will win? Or not please debate here.
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yukino_silvermaine


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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:00 pm

1 on 1?

Silly.. Razor only needs to get Hood of Defiance.
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bibo1990


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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:24 pm

i agree very very silly
frenzy =gg
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dOtA-AlLsTAr


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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:04 pm

i guess it zeus would stand well in early game, seeing as he has those nukes. but as you reach even early-mid game, razor would pop out of nowhere and easliy destroy the zues
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arcthas


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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:31 pm

depends on every hero. how bow if zeus purchase some damaging/great DpS items early one. We cant say who will win at that stage and it depends on the user!
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GameReaper


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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 3:06 pm

well thats why I said Razor will most probably win
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matt220


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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 3:27 pm

If zues gets dagon its gg for low hp razor

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GameReaper


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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 3:32 pm

There's the catch. For low hp...let see..you most probably wouldn't get Dagon all the way 1st with Zeus right? You would most probably try to farm for other items. Razor can kill Zeus very quickly, plus he has Frenzy, and thats a fact
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OZREX


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Zeus vs Razor

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:55 pm

Ah! Zeus vs Razor. What a topic. Well yeah certainly Razor will dominate the game from the first leaving little space for Zeus to manouevre his attacks. Even Zeus' ulti deals as much as 450 damage in the final level, if I remember correctly and even Razor can build up enough HP and armour to counter that, but still it depends on how you play, how you build up your inventory and control your part of the game. Remember, it always depends on your gameplay. And you have to increase your attack speed if you have to counter Razor. So go for a Hyperstone and don't be late. And its very tough to reduce Razor's farming rate because of his ulti. And if Razor gets to make a cranium basher, then you are going to have a very tough time, with a chance to get permabashed. I've seen Magina fail to blink on being permabashed with Razor in Frenzy and two Hyperstones. So get real man! You've got to make a very high HP and armour to counter Razor, and Zeus being an intell hero, you can rush for Soul Booster. And get a Vanguard, and a Hyperstone for sure. And after you've got all these done, try to incease your damage, but never rush and try to use the most perfect combo of spells, because intelli heroes are based on their combination of spells. But if you must really want to know what I think, Zeus is a better player in a team game that in a 1-on-1 and especially against Razor. So good luck! [/b]
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rchowmein


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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:27 pm

its pretty funny that no one commented on getting disables, like guinsoo. First of all, even w/ high attk speek, razor has low hp. And in any case, all your scenarios are item dependent. Presumably, any hero can kill another hero, just depends on the items and the player. So this question of who would win is honestly rather stupid.

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this is funny

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:44 pm

you see, on a one on one.. razor could go for any item he wants to build.. he doesn't have to face zeus until he is powerful enough to take on him..
zeus on the other hand does not have the capability to push fast.. so by the time zeus reaches the third tower..
razor could have built a defiance and a lvl 4 item already..

only a noob could lose to zeus using razor on a one on one.. that's for sure.. razor can build mjolnir, radiance, heart, buriza, travel, defiance.. and zeus can do nothing about it..
zeus can't defend a base when the creeps are already mega even on one side, he'll surely lose..
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Rhat_Breaky


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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:06 pm

Razor will win imagine to counter zeus everyone knows hood of defiance, plus u can have critical strike, and something like mkb, ohh u have frenzy u will kick zeus ass in questions of secs, zeus hp to low.

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rchowmein


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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:27 pm

I still dont understand why everyone is talking about it as if its set. Why the heck couldn't zeus get skadi, satanic, buriza, guinsoo, assault and radiance. you're all comparing winning based on items and saying all zeus has is spells. If you load up zeus with end game items too, then he wouldn't have such low hp then would he...ppl who have posted have zero imagination and zero knowledge on gameplay.

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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:18 am

Razor = Has no defense skill but a good early game harasser, his harassing depends mainly on his DpS and Storm Seeker.
Zeus = Has no defensive skill but also a good early game harasser, but his harassing depends on his skills, and skills require mana, and Zeus has a pretty low mana for early game.

It always depends on the player. Early game dominance is the trick.
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:25 am

early game i'll go for zeus..


Late Game razor will win for sure...
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