Dota Allstars 6.49

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:00 am

lol niax wont suk, sure he will in pubs with nubs that would previously let him farm and make the game last more than 30 mins, but in a REAL game he will actually be a viable hero 2 choose. Bristle needed the nerf 2 imo, he is jst too strong atm, im happy with every change, only the items might need to be rethought, seem a bit 2 good 2 be tru, and yes i expect a .b version soon.
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:19 am

imao rylai birliance aura is global!!! and naix...shyt no more ealry hax speed tactic again!! XD
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 6:34 am

it is now official???

damn.!!!
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:55 pm

naix is so cute in this version... i luv him ^^
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:08 pm

I had fun with Armlet of Mordiggian and the new Vladimir's Offering on Broodmother.

Orchid Malevolence on Akasha/Silencer was just downright mean.

Haven't tried Shiva`s Guard yet, but I'll try it on Puck on my next game.
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:15 pm

How can you like the new Vladimir's? the recipe needs an additional Ring of Regen but it doesn't give any HP regen.. sheez..

I think Shiva's Guard have a bug or i just didn't get the aura effect because when i got the item, even all my allied creeps and heroes have a slowed asp.. I was using Raijin btw, until i got Cuirass, that's when their asp went back to normal or faster..
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:24 pm



Yeah Orchid on those heros are really good. on QoP it makes her almost immpossilbe to escape her. I havent tried it on Silencer yet, but this seems like a good item on all INT dps heros with out slows.

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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 6:54 pm

I'm kinda dissapointed with 6.49.
Why nerf BOT?? they suck now...
I played a pub just awhile ago and the dude that had n'aix owned face... hes still a killer so I don't have any problems there.

Too many big changes all in one version..
Maybe I will just have to get used to them i guess.

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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:40 am

My real nitpick on this version is the discount on Mystic Staff coming with the intro of 2 new items that use it. You just increased the staff's usefulness by 2 good items, and you lower it's price?

Also, the 2 new INT items. I like that they're showing more love for the INT, but if you put everything on sticks, you're killing the flavor a bit. Now everyone can slow or silence, with benefits. Why do we need that hero with the slow skill in our team, if I already have this? Why do I need to team up with a disabler to stop the stunner, when I can silence him easy? It kills on team effort and team balancing. "It's okay we don't have a slower, I'll just buy shiva's guard".

The new MKB Production works well with units who have Crit Skills. Now they can grab the 2 javelins first, and get an equivalent amount of damage to buying the demon edge first.

As for new nai'x, i think they gave him too much base damage, and the lifesteal too high by a percent, but I think it'll be interesting.
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:53 am

jeez...

I just downloaded this map.

and of course, i'd use this map.

but no.

lots of peoples still like 6.48b.

after playing it, i now know what they mean.

imba rylai.

effed up puck.

Remade naix into a stupid imba bastardoh...

items kind of make things hard...especially treads.

remake please...
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:56 am

@Nido: 15% damage aura ftw.

Okay, tried Shiva's Guard on Puck on a pub game.

Enemy: Lalalala pushing lalala
*2 seconds later*
2 of them dead, 2 with red life.

I dived in using Illusionary Orb, used Wanning Rift and Arctic Blast at the same time. 2 of them died lol! My team mates rouned up the rest of the enemy with ease. Didn't even need to use Dream Coil.

QBF has a point though, these new items will only increase the Rambo players out there.
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:04 am

whats with rylai global effect? i love the new items but the new naix uhmm must adept to it but still prefer the old naix i miss him
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 5:13 am

DotA just became item dependent.

Yay.

*facepalm*
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 5:38 am

was this new version made just for ints or what...

i mean nerfed mystic staff, and 2 burls int items. harbinger pretty much freakin owns if he get both of the new item...

i played a game against enchantress and she had shiva, she was more or less uncatchable between all the slows

haven't tried the naix yet, but he doesn't seem to be that bad on paper, liked the old one better still

MKB is better with the new item tho, at least one good change...

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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 8:14 am

The love for intelligence is a good comeback for Int-types. It all started when the Hood of Defiance was formed, most heroes when facing against Int-types buy this and make them very very weak. The only few Int-types that do well even against heroes with Hood of Defiance are Enchantress and Nortrom. But I really have no problem with Na'ix getting a big change. Na'ix can now kill with skills, but before, it's better cause you can depend on your normal attacks. Na'ix was my favorite hero to use against Magina until now. Rylai's Brilliance Aura buff is just right, this is because nobody actually puts that skill, only after the Attribute Bonus. The Power Treads change is a good one. Because it includes Boots of Elvenskin instead of the scroll also with a decreased price of Gloves of Haste, much more people will get Power Treads instead of Boots of Travel. Also, I don't like the Mystic Staff price change, damn it's too cheap, it's almost as pricy as Demon Edge. It's the cheapest of all the 3 greatest stat items, Messerchmidt's Reaver, Eaglehorn and Mystic Staff. What did Javelin replace? If Javelin got inside Beazel the Weapons Dealer's shop then something's got to have been replaced, right?
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