omfg when are mirana going to be balanced?????

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:02 am

I don't have that big a deal about Mirana. Sure, she's freaking annoying to capture, but in the whole scale of things she is by no means imbalanced. It's like spectre's dagger: I've had a spectre at bottom lane be at literally 20hp, and dagger across the water and well out of range for me to even see. At least with Mirana's leap other blinkers or stuff e.g assassinate can still get her.

So yeah, Mirana isn't an imba unstoppable hero, she just has 1 annoying ability. And sure the worst bit is that it doesn't make sense, but think about it: All other heroes with an equivalent spell e.g. blink can't move whilst entangled; and considering the game mechanics it's possible that Icefrog had to code extra so this bit happened. Therefore, the fact that she can get out of anything could be re-balancing her not im-balancing her. After all, with that ulti the one thing she's really good at is escaping.
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:28 am

you cant escape frostbite or net with dagger.
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:38 am

leap is pretty imba, but her hp and late game isnt. you nuke with any skill and just that takes down 40% of her max hp, and thats when she has bracers. her late game is pretty ok, but it sucks because any other agi hero has at the least twice as better a late game. everyone's rigged in their own way, like alchemist chemical rage being like a fountain and unstable concoction being a long stun, atropos for mass disable, and so forth. err... well u get it.

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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:56 am

I changed my mind.

Let the tiger be. After all, Frostsaber (the tiger's name) can't jump all the time (the Priestess' overweight ) so that is a drawback and the fact is the Goddess (joking) has withdrawn its invulnerability while flying through the air, so let the Priestess gloat - for a while only!

As for the Enigma, well he should go back to black hole school training.
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:42 am

ROTFLMFAO!

Well, stop the flame war against the tiger against blackhole! The tiger studied kuantum physics in MIT! Yes, I know. I, as another Mirana worshipper, payed for the school. Surely it would know more about blackholes than the embodiment of a black hole itself and of cource he can leap out.

Hail the almighty Tiger! The world tree is not the one to be protected, the Tiger is! It is the secret embodiment of god itself, and you say he is imba. Well, he keeps sending scourge heroes to hell where they belong, I say let them have it. BTW, in version 6.49b, if you kill Kael, the you have to face the tiger which is as big as the map and has an attack calculation of all heroes combined and his ulti has no cooldown or spell cost and it is the modified wersion of Zeus' ulti, The Tigergod's Wrath. It damages all the units, heroes and buildings on the map for 1000000 damage. It also damages himself, but that is simply only 0.000000000000000000000000000000000001% of his HP and he has spontaneous regeneration that regenerates 100% of his HP in 1/a gazillion seconds. Then it jumps out of the monitor and eats you.

BTW, Mirana good farmed is well beyond IMBA late game. You can deal a good 960 damage to any hero escaping. Leap from the battle, starfall (hits twice) and arrow. And you get the stun. Get her a skadi, mjollnir (dream set)and see if anyone can stand her.
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:05 am

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I'll put a pumped troll warlord or faceless void against your pumped mirana. She's a balanced all-game hero: pretty good early pretty good late. Not god's gift to the late-game.
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:28 am



Agreed. Faceless Void currently is the most overpowered late-game hero since the nerf to Harbinger.
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:05 am

Mirana does need a nerf, she has 2 very powerful nukes one of them is a stun, 2 escape mechanisms, and good DPS aswell. I believe a mana cost increase of her spells would be sufficient.

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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:10 pm

Leave her alone. soon we will have another case of Niax on our hands.
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:31 pm

harbinger got nerfed? what was he like before?

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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:28 pm

cmon. every hero has a slight imba ness to it, well maybe not pitlord, but everyone else you could argue! I mean look at CM's aura now it effects EVERY ALLY with mana!!!! Cmon!
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:26 pm

Can you really jump out of black hole? I thought black hole disabled skills too... Can lina for example use ulti while being black holed? Can sven use stun hammer when being black holed?

Another question, isnt it possible to magina-blink out of Rooftrellens ulti? I thought so... Im pretty sure he can blink out of nagas net at least, can he not?

I would say there are other heros who are stronger than mirana. Mirana needs to have nice escape spells, cause she is incredibly fragile. I do not think she needs nerfing.

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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:32 pm

her leap should be nerfed but shes not that imba
low hp easy to gank and pwn
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:19 am

omfg...what's wrong with Mirana !?!?...look arrow you can dodge it...noobs...leap she can't leap if she's stunned...and you can't turn around when your stuck by entangling roots you can leap but it won't help much unless your in a good spot (facing trees or a cliff) starfall doesn't do much for hero killing late game and once your home creep base is gone starfall barely does half damage to creeps...

1# arrow dodge it...if your lag is too high get a better connection...
2# Leap she can't cast if she's stunned, and she only leaps the direction she's facing which usually is towards the caster...
3# starfall doesn't do much mid-late game even when it's spammed because the damage/cooldown aren't effective.
4# does she have an amazing ultimate??? the fade time is 3 seconds at level 1 and it only lasts for 9 seconds...thats 6 seconds of invisability and usually your ally won't realise they're invisable...

basically she gets some nice skills but her ulti is shit...trade ultimate for Leap...YUH !!! bring back the invulnerability!!! to hell with her ulti!!

CMON 200 MANA AT LEVEL 1 JUST FOR 6 SECONDS INVISABILITY !?!? AND YOU CALL HER IMBA ?!?! WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU ?!...noobs...and have you noticed str gain???and int???
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:25 am

@BloodyBengt
Yes you can, but only in the direction Mirana is facing at the time.

@caspian
Yeah FV beats all late game.... But ya gotta get him there first. Thats the main problem.

Mirana isn't imbalanced or else she'd be picked every game like Puck or Undying were before they got nerfed. She just has her little quirks. Now can we stop this thread right here before it turns into a flame war?
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