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folechno

Beyond Godlike Posts: 3934 Joined: 09 Dec 2007 Warnings : 2 gold

Posted on Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:29 am

Can someone explain to me how cold attack melee override cold attack ranged on ranged heroes?
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sfsy1

Beyond Godlike Posts: 5298 Joined: 08 Sep 2007 Warnings : 3 gold

Posted on Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:55 pm

thats just how the game works. orb buff placers is priority.
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rambol

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Posted on Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:01 pm

I'm a bit unsure about the cold attack thingy, but I guess it has something to do with Skadi ranged being based on the Nerubian Tower's Frost Attack and Skadi melee being based on Orb of Frost
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[iiRogerii]

Monster Kill Posts: 386 Joined: 09 Aug 2008 gold

Posted on Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:27 pm

helps alot thnx =D
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haeduz21

First Blood Posts: 3 Joined: 30 Mar 2008 gold

Posted on Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:54 pm

whoa, could you please tell me if feedback really has an effect on ranged heroes? i was getting the impression of no for an answer as being discussed on strategy guides that ranged heroes could not use feedback.

thanks!

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folechno

Beyond Godlike Posts: 3934 Joined: 09 Dec 2007 Warnings : 2 gold

Posted on Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:23 pm

according to this, feedback will work on ranged heroes (as long as another orb doesn't override it)

and according to the image thread, the mana burn will not work for ranged images

but bash is trying it now in game so we will see
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haeduz21

First Blood Posts: 3 Joined: 30 Mar 2008 gold

feedback

Posted on Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:39 pm

sori for double posting. question answered already by greater bash,folechno with hybrid and ds.net chat.
it really works on ranged dpending on other orb effects.but images dont burn mana. Alien

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GaNkStA

Beyond Godlike Posts: 3009 Joined: 12 Dec 2006 gold

Posted on Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:57 pm

im pretty sure it works

As ive seen a Diff on nevermore a few times
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grim234

Monster Kill Posts: 288 Joined: 14 Feb 2008 gold

Posted on Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:13 am

so does that mean if i have a ranged hero i can get a skadi and a sanatic with both orb effects working??

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ogre-magi

Godlike Posts: 1394 Joined: 01 May 2008 gold

Posted on Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:15 am

grim234 wrote:
so does that mean if i have a ranged hero i can get a skadi and a sanatic with both orb effects working??

Yes, you would get frost and lifesteal because satanic is not a buff placer
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folechno

Beyond Godlike Posts: 3934 Joined: 09 Dec 2007 Warnings : 2 gold

Posted on Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:05 pm

ogre-magi wrote:

grim234 wrote:
so does that mean if i have a ranged hero i can get a skadi and a sanatic with both orb effects working??

Yes, you would get frost and lifesteal because satanic is not a buff placer

yes, because ranged skadi isn't an orb

so you have 1 orb, and 1 buff placer (which isn't an orb) so they will stack and work together (you will see the lifesteal attack animation but you will see the enemy get the frost animation)
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grim234

Monster Kill Posts: 288 Joined: 14 Feb 2008 gold

Posted on Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:43 pm

thanks guys, now i know that i can get both

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Dynasty13

First Blood Posts: 3 Joined: 30 Jan 2009 gold

Feedback (Anti-Mage)

Posted on Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:32 am

Regarding the second chart (if I remember correctly), does that mean if Anti-Mage made the item 'Manta Style' before learning his feedback ability, 'Mana Break,' would he take 64 mana per hit or 32 (from manta). I know for certain that, if I build manta (or diffusal) after learning the skill, diffusals 18 mana burn or manta's mana burn will override anti-mages 64.

Anyone have any answers?
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tiberiumlord

Beyond Godlike Posts: 3012 Joined: 06 Jul 2007 gold

Posted on Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:42 am

The mana burn you get last will be the one that works. So if u get all mana break then a Manta, only the mana burn from Manta works.
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quale

Chambermaid Posts: 2229 Joined: 13 Aug 2007 gold

Posted on Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:46 am

yes, its true.

if you learn his skill mana break first and then assemble diffusal or manta... feedback will reign. meaning mana break will be totally useless.

to avoid this, assemble diffusal or manta first and then learn mana break... so mana break will reign.

but these items are risky, you better make sure you don't drop them. if for example you drop diffusal/manta and pick it up again, their feedback will reign and put mana break to waste.
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