do u guys agree with this kardel's build-up?

do u guys agree with this kardel's build-up?

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:49 am

da final items:
power treads
Eye of Skadi
butterfly
aegis
linken
SnY

do u guys agree?

n is it true dat we have to focus on scatter shot n take aim? n headshot came last after those 2??

please help me..

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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:56 am

It's a nice item build. Replace aegis with Buriza.

Hmm...
If you're going for a farmer build, get scattershot.
But personally, I get headshot first.
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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:26 am

It's kinda okay, but they're quite expensive. Usually games end before you have the money to buy Skadi, but I guess it depends on the order that you get your items. When I use Kardel, Skadi is the last item that I buy.

Scattershot early if you're not good at last hitting, coz it's quite hard to do for ranged heroes. Get mana regen/INT items early, then if you have enough money, just sell them off later. If you do this, then yes Take Aim should be learned first before Headshot. Advanced players go Take Aim then Headshot first before Scattershot, since Kardel has a very low mana pool early game, and he can't really spam Scattershot. It's cooldown is also longer on lower levels.
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Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 5:26 pm

i dont really agree with that build. you'll get killed many times before you get skdy. Dont understimate the high damage of kardel, headshot and take aim should go first, with the appropiate items you would farm as good as if you had scatter. Buy mom first, then go lothar so that you get more damage, a little more of armour, 10% increased attack speed and what is more importante, you guarantee your escape: windwalk. It can also help you kill enemies at first levels: activate frenzy = 4 or 5 hits, then go assasinate and that's all. Get those items before you get boots as you are not suppose to leave your lane (which should be the mid one)until you get lothar. try that and you'll love kardel.
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Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 5:37 pm

Not bad, but scatter shot build is riskful! U will be very fragile. Better become killer kardel. BoT or treads, mkb, burize, S&Y, aegis, divine. Max out take aim and headshot first.
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Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:39 pm

Mmm...considering the amount of advice given here, I'll just say I agree with FF_Dr@gon's build, and for the sake of clarity, don't forget that Aegis and Rapier are bought after the rest...and something likd a Ring of Regeneration may be necessary in early-game to stay in your lane. Alternatively, a Guinsoo's Scythe of Vyse may be taken instead of the Monkey King Bar, so that you can repeatedly harass the enemy using Assassinate (though I personally prefer the MKB).

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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:26 am


Go headshot and take aim first, coz Kardel has a little mana pool.

And don't forget Hand of Midas! You're a late game hero. My build on Kardel:
1. Hand of Midas
2. Sange n Yasha
3. Aegis
4. Rapier
5. Power Treads
6. BkB

After aegis/rapier you should get bkb coz you'll be aimed, especially by disabler and spellcaster heroes.

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Meh

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:24 pm

Personally my experiences with Sniper is getting RoR first with a chicken. i stay mid lane till i get my orbs for skadi
so skadi first then i get treads and buriza. after that butterfly and hyperstones finish off my build.
i dont have any trouble getting the money for these items because i dont have to go back to the fountain with my RoR
take aim then headshot till maxed with assassinate at 6 then after stats i get scatte shot because its not necessary in the cases i have come across

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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:36 pm

s&y may not be enough for you to stay alive. You can still be easily kill by any stunning hero. IN my expierence i can only suggest LOTHAR,this item is really useful for sniper. Trust me, once you've got lothar you'll be pushing anywhere you want without being in constant danger. As i said before,mom is a good item for getting fast hp recovery and killing enemies. You can then go for skdy and that's when you can start maxing scatershot. At late game, buy crystalis and butterfly. I dont think the game could last long enough to get buriza, aegis or divine.
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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:22 am

Well, i get take aim and headshot first, just farm wih hose skills and ater just get scatter... Scatter will be a risk at first... ANd wih take aim and head shot, kardel can own... Try this build, 2 basher, power treads, butterfly, heart of tarrasque, and buriza..

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Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 5:42 am

thanks a lot guys!!! that must really helps me!!
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