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SiegWahrheit

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Axe Item Build Against the Alchemist

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:05 am

Hi guys, I need help on this one. What should be Mogul Kahn's item build against a Razzil Darkbrew that wields the following: 1)treads
2) Mask of Madness
3) Heart of Tarrasque
4-5) Twins Bashers
6) Perseverance
................................................thx!
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yukino_silvermaine

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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 2:44 am

Treads, Vanguard, Blademail/Aegis, MKB, Tarrasque, Butterfly.

You'll lose in terms of aspd. Butterfly helps because of the evade and a decent speed boost. Vanguard and Blademail/Aegis makes you tougher. MKB for damage. Tarrasque for HP and regen.

Pray that Counter Helix will always trigger.
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Garfield

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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:31 am

@ Yukino:

Hehehe, double post. Bleh!

@ SiegWahrheit:

Anyway, I think you're better off with Blademail than Aegis, for the sole purpose of the damage return. He attacks more, damage returns more. Razzil doesn't have any spells that you need to reduce damage from, except for Acid Spray. So just stay away from Acid Spray's AoE. Also, Satanic would help greatly if you go one-on-one with him. Helm of the Dominator would suffice if you don't have that much gold to spare.
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yukino_silvermaine

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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 5:13 am

Gah.
Dial-up sucks.

Anyway..
It's really better to go for blade mail. It's cheaper.
You can replace vanguard with Helm of Dominator.
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SiegWahrheit

Killing Spree Posts: 56 Joined: 03 Sep 2006 0 gold

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 2:23 pm

thanks guys. (actually i played a game against a friend who used the alchemist. -apnp game. I chose first.)
I had 3 blade mails in my inventory, and an S&Y and Battle Fury. I lost. aw.
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Garfield

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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 2:55 pm

Well, you really can't rely on Blade Mails to win for you. There are a lot of factors to consider in each game. Was he always ahead of levels? What items did he have? Why did you not go for Satanic? Did you do the ambushes or did he start them?

You could've won. Maybe something didn't go as planned?
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zex

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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 4:38 pm

replace HoT with satanic. you have high AS.
P.S : are counter helix stack with satanic?

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SiegWahrheit

Killing Spree Posts: 56 Joined: 03 Sep 2006 0 gold

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:49 am

@Garfield: Yes he was always ahead of levels and did most of the ambushes. The acid spray thing is ridiculuzz..
I think I was outfarmed t00, Razzil has goblin's greed.
But you're right, i could've won, it's just that I don't know much about the alchemist yet. Sad

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Heaven(HH)

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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 8:33 am

Okay, take those items, no questions :p

Vanguard
Treads
Blademail * 2
Linken sphere
Satanic

concentrate on getting the most out of your counter helix
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shadowmastermk47

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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:11 am

@SiegWarHeit
You can win easily against Alchemist when you alone face Alchem with creeps with him, use Berserker's call, give him hunger (optional) and banat then use Culling Blade!
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Heaven(HH)

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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:37 pm

Brezerkerz call with creeps = ownage.

And you may wanna try having a higher mana pool than him, Get a Heart of terrasque. Oh this is gonna be tough but it needs practice. When he is farming with acid blah. Denying would be hard, so try to use Battle hunger, then go in quickly when he tres to get a kill.
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shadowmastermk47

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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:16 pm

Could this set of items work for axe against alchemist?
-tarrasque
-b-fury
-dagon 5
-guinsoo's scythe
-refresher orb
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